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Old 05-09-2012, 01:51 PM   #31
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as somebody previously said, its effectively a private members club, surely if they dont want people to hold their special licence card they can't be forced to? especially if the reason they are being excluded is they have broken specific rules that were set
I can understand if they would want to ban Chisora or Haye...but officials and other fighters who fight on the undercard?

If a boxer had a MMA fight, would be be right to ban them from boxing? I can't see the difference from a legal point of view.
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:52 PM   #32
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Plus small matter of ANY tv companies will get excluded from future bbboc shows if they promote or televise it.

Can see a breakaway occuring if the bbboc stick to their guns.....
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:53 PM   #33
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The Board surely created this situation when they bumped Chisora's appeal to July - that meant that he would have been banned for a few months by then, so whatever the outcome of the appeal he would already have served a punishment. In a sporting context, where the participants have a limited shelf life, that is undermining the whole concept of an appeal. Chisora's promoter has mentioned a few times that it was that bumping of the appeal from May to July that prompted them to move ahead with a non-BBBoC solution, and I for one agree with him.

The Board made a mistake flexing their muscles on the Haye-Chisora fight when they have been so lax on other issues, as other posters have mentioned, then they compounded that by delaying the appeal. A prompt appeal would have sidestepped this whole Luxembourg angle. They have self-destructed and risk making themselves irrelevant.

The world is getting more global by the year, playing the 'we have local jurisdiction' card is an increasingly irrelevant stance to adopt in any walk of life.
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:54 PM   #34
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The BBBoC will back down and give Chisora a licence, and sanction the fight.
I think so too.

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It's restriction of trade. Considering how inept the board has been the last few years, there's no point throwing a tantrum. Those safety regulations it's crowing about are only there because of Frank.

Useless organisation. This should serve it notice to sort out its shot, not send them running away to sulk.


They should regulate the sport, rather than making ridiculous statements.

Chisora's case should have been heard by now and the outcome decided.

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so if Adam Booth is in Hayes corner on fight night he will lose his license too.This could get very messy the Lawers are the only winners here.
Booth probably won't care, he only works with Groves outside of The Cunt, and he's UK rights belong to Allegedly.

If he pulls this off, even I'll hold my hands up and say well done - it's what he's needed for the past three years, and all because someone who hates him (The Cunt) decided to start gobbing off at a press conference.

Funny how things turn out, eh?
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:56 PM   #35
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I can understand if they would want to ban Chisora or Haye...but officials and other fighters who fight on the undercard?

If a boxer had a MMA fight, would be be right to ban them from boxing? I can't see the difference from a legal point of view.

they set the rules for their club and who gets a membership card, short of excluding people on race or sexuality, they can choose the criteria, legal doesnt come into it, they're rule is you have to be exclusive with us, if you break that and fight for the luxembourg board without our permission we dont want you in our club, petty but within their rights to do so. however in my opinion this will just damage them more than the boxers as they now know they dont need the board so its up to them
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:58 PM   #36
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Kind ironic considering the bully boy tactics the British board pulled during the Irish title fight last month!
Good point.

If the BBBoC try to take away the licences of any of their members that get involved in this promotion then I hope Wazza challenges it. As I am sure if the BUI had tried to insist that the Fury-Rogan fight was to be sanction by them alone, the BBBoC would have probably tried to ride roughshod with them too. So, if Wazza wins a precedent here it could have a good knock on effect for Irish boxing. The BBBoC have no business co-sanctioning Irish title fights and hopefully the BUI grows a pair now and sticks it to the Board too.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:06 PM   #37
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Viva Luxembourg!
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:07 PM   #38
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If the Board is not respected , or at least it's rules , I think it's a bad day for boxing. Chisora deserved a ban. Frank could be doing a lot of harm to the sport here. Most people advocate better drug testing, better medicals etc etc that will only be achieved if the Various boards are respected in their own countries.

Having said that I will be going to the fight
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:10 PM   #39
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Why don't they just give Chisora his licence back and get on with it? They had their chance to deal with him and failed by giving him the freedom to fight under different organisations. They've been pissing around for too long over this matter.

The fight is going to happen, one way or another.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:15 PM   #40
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The Board surely created this situation when they bumped Chisora's appeal to July - that meant that he would have been banned for a few months by then, so whatever the outcome of the appeal he would already have served a punishment. In a sporting context, where the participants have a limited shelf life, that is undermining the whole concept of an appeal. Chisora's promoter has mentioned a few times that it was that bumping of the appeal from May to July that prompted them to move ahead with a non-BBBoC solution, and I for one agree with him.

The Board made a mistake flexing their muscles on the Haye-Chisora fight when they have been so lax on other issues, as other posters have mentioned, then they compounded that by delaying the appeal. A prompt appeal would have sidestepped this whole Luxembourg angle. They have self-destructed and risk making themselves irrelevant.

The world is getting more global by the year, playing the 'we have local jurisdiction' card is an increasingly irrelevant stance to adopt in any walk of life.
Bang on Temps.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:19 PM   #41
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The Board have been fucking stupid a fine and a 6 month ban would of stopped all of this.Now it`s going to get very messy unless they back down.

Jane Couch should fuck off to Luxunberg,she is on twitter spouting of a load of bile
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:20 PM   #42
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If the Board is not respected , or at least it's rules , I think it's a bad day for boxing. Chisora deserved a ban. Frank could be doing a lot of harm to the sport here. Most people advocate better drug testing, better medicals etc etc that will only be achieved if the Various boards are respected in their own countries.

Having said that I will be going to the fight
Then the should've banned him properly. Withdrawing his license and then not having a proper hearing and putting back the appeal is just laziness.

I've had enough with the board. Their authority has never really meant anything anyway.

Viva Luxembourg indeed.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:21 PM   #43
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The Board have been fucking stupid a fine and a 6 month ban would of stopped all of this.Now it`s going to get very messy unless they back down.

Jane Couch should fuck off to Luxunberg,she is on twitter spouting of a load of bile
What is she saying?
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:23 PM   #45
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The Board surely created this situation when they bumped Chisora's appeal to July - that meant that he would have been banned for a few months by then, so whatever the outcome of the appeal he would already have served a punishment. In a sporting context, where the participants have a limited shelf life, that is undermining the whole concept of an appeal. Chisora's promoter has mentioned a few times that it was that bumping of the appeal from May to July that prompted them to move ahead with a non-BBBoC solution, and I for one agree with him.

The Board made a mistake flexing their muscles on the Haye-Chisora fight when they have been so lax on other issues, as other posters have mentioned, then they compounded that by delaying the appeal. A prompt appeal would have sidestepped this whole Luxembourg angle. They have self-destructed and risk making themselves irrelevant.

The world is getting more global by the year, playing the 'we have local jurisdiction' card is an increasingly irrelevant stance to adopt in any walk of life.
Good point. I actually have changed my mind on this. My knee jerk reaction was that this is bad for boxing, but maybe it is just what boxing needs, it is about time something gave the BBBoC a good kick in the proverbial bollocks. They do fuck all about farcicial scorecards and bullshit refereeing that has become more prevalent that it is sickening me - how is upholding that bollocks good for boxing? They dont listen to the licence holders or the fans so fuck them.

The icing on the cake is the bullshit about jurisdiction and how they will take away someones BBBoC licence if they partake in this promotion, get the fuck!

Viva revolt!
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