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View Poll Results: On a scale of one to ten...rate Carl Froch in his ability to finish.
1 4 1.72%
2 1 0.43%
3 2 0.86%
4 2 0.86%
5 3 1.29%
6 9 3.88%
7 37 15.95%
8 92 39.66%
9 53 22.84%
10 29 12.50%
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:46 AM   #1
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Some examples of his show-closing:

Against Bute, he began landing hurtful right hands from the opening round but never forced the issue and punched himself out with any reckless wildness. He worked behind the jab in the 2nd, scoring progressively better and laying the groundwork. He did become an eager beaver when Bute was hurt in the third, and perhaps wasted a chance at a KO3 by allowing Bute to to repeatedly move in and hold every time he opened up with mostly wide combos. Some straighter shots, and Bute would never have escaped as he was initially hurt only a minute in. He was more disciplined and patient in the fourth, and continued to widen the dent. This allowed him to get down to business early in the 5th and put the kibosh without much delay.

Against Taylor, he scored the accumulation knockdown with a minute left in the 12th and set to work as soon as the ref motioned to continue. Even visibly exhausted, he put shots together with increasing force and frequency and distributed to head and body until Jermain was vanquished - and did so in the nick of time with less than twenty seconds to go. Any further delay in letting his man hang around and Froch would have lost a decision.

Against Magee, he caught the tiring southpaw stepping forward lazily about a minute into the 11th with a big right hand and didn't fail to notice how much it shook him. Magee was then very economically KTFO as Froch came on and put everything he had into a big wide blocked left hook and the big right uppercut that did the job.

He just has those instincts.

Go back six years to when he first began to step up in class (to at least top-line domestic level, if not world), and look at who he has stopped and failed to stop.

Magee ✓
Dodson ✓
Tatevosyan ✓
Reid ✓
Rybacki ✓
Pascal x
Taylor ✓
Dirrell x
Kessler x
Abraham x
Johnson x
Ward x
Bute ✓

7 of 13, 53% and that's after weaning off baby food in terms of opponent quality.

The six x's are guys you don't really expect anybody to stop: Dirrell being notoriously ultra-negative and possessing the athleticism to go largely untouched, and the rest - Pascal, Kessler, Ward, Johnson, & Abraham - renowned for their rugged durability. Glen Johnson just might be the toughest of the bunch and he's the only one with a stoppage loss.



IMO, his ability to show the exit door to anyone he hurts (and the way he fights - ever aggressively stalking and coiled to strike, true to his namesake - he's inevitably going to hurt anyone who isn't hard as nails or a defensive wizard) is his most valuable asset. Or chief among them, at the very least...up there with his heavy hands, chin, and stamina. In all these dangerous qualities he more than makes up what he lacks in speed or technical finesse, and even there he isn't quite a caveman as his schooling of Abraham demonstrated.
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:57 AM   #2
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unbelievable finisher, and if he had ever managed to get any of the guys he couldn't stop into serious trouble, he would have had a hell of a chance of finishing them. definitely worthy of his namesake.

, "very economically KTFO"
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Old 05-29-2012, 02:08 AM   #3
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He drops his hands when he has his man hurt and just goes into pure stalker mode, seeing that must be very daunting on a fighter tryna run away with no legs underneath him. It may also give them the confidence to attempt a counter (Bute did often), which Froch would more than likely just walk through, presenting Froch with the opening needed to finish him off.

He is also clearly looking for openings in this stalk mode, he might miss a few when actually throwing a flurry but the first punch ho ****s back and lunges in with more often than not lands absolutely flush on a backtracking opponent, snapping their heads back with the punch, happened multiple times in both Taylor and Bute fights.
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Old 05-29-2012, 02:16 AM   #4
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Oh look he didnt finish the good fighters he faced
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Old 05-29-2012, 02:32 AM   #5
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I agree. He's a good judge of when an opponent is ready to go, doesn't rush the job, picks his punches and gives himself space. 8 or a 9 imo.
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Old 05-29-2012, 02:50 AM   #6
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He is a very good finisher. He probably should've stopped Pascal as well, but was a little over eager that night, (although fighting in his first world title fight in front of his home crowd might explain this).
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:52 AM   #7
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He drops his hands when he has his man hurt and just goes into pure stalker mode, seeing that must be very daunting on a fighter tryna run away with no legs underneath him.
Good point. I re-watched the Taylor fight again yesterday and after the first KD it must have been pretty initimidating to watch Froch just casually stroll across the ring in such a cold, calculating manner.
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:53 AM   #8
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He looks scary as f*ck when he goes into that stalk mode. The best example was the taylor fight ,last round, he looked like a cold blooded killer in there.
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:03 AM   #9
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Oh look he didnt finish the good fighters he faced
oh wow he didn't stop the guys who have never been stopped Frochs KO percentage would be alot better if he wasn't fighting world class opponents all the time.
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:12 AM   #10
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Kindof hard to finish spoilers who like to run and slip and slide around the ring, but if someone wants to bang and trade.....they better have his chin.

Bute made an amatuer mistake that night thinking b/c he had equal power to Froch that his unequal chin could bear the fight in the trenches.
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8 - it's kind of harsh to judge him against the likes of Ward and Kessler (great chins and highly skill full) and Abraham (hardly threw punches all night) especially when neither have even been stopped.
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Kindof hard to finish spoilers who like to run and slip and slide around the ring, but if someone wants to bang and trade.....they better have his chin.

Bute made an amatuer mistake that night thinking b/c he had equal power to Froch that his unequal chin could bear the fight in the trenches.
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:16 AM   #13
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He looks scary as f*ck when he goes into that stalk mode. The best example was the taylor fight ,last round, he looked like a cold blooded killer in there.
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:20 AM   #14
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robin reidwasnt finished, he retiered with an elbow injury
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:22 AM   #15
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Default Re: Rate Froch as a finisher.

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Kindof hard to finish spoilers who like to run and slip and slide around the ring, but if someone wants to bang and trade.....they better have his chin.

Bute made an amatuer mistake that night thinking b/c he had equal power to Froch that his unequal chin could bear the fight in the trenches.
for sure but the thing is even when the fight was on the outside he was having problems getting off. His southpaw jab is average at best and with froch having quite a big reach advantage I could see how bute was going to have trouble on the outside too. His defence from frochs right hand was non-existent. Froch also showed he could effectively block butes uppercut to the body.

Overall i think that he would have sustained a beating if he boxed on the outside. Leaving him with the option of taking a shot to land one, something he is obviously not durable enough to do. He said as much in his thoroughly honest interview, that he tried to lure froch in to try and counter him on the ropes but he couldn't do it.

Fairplay to him, he has loads of class as a person it seems..

I gave froch an 8 for finishing.
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