Ward-Froch II: Repeat or Revenge?

[Big Left]

it seems most ward fans do not ever want to see him fight again, like every possible match up is below him so why bother??

[Big Left]

Originally Posted by Atlanta

Oh so the Judges not being able to Score and the Ref being incompetent to how to handle a boxing match. Brilliant.

i think the point is clear, home advantage is massive. some fighters just can do their best when having to worry about travelling, time zones, support etc.

refs/judges are something. you gotta assume 9/10 times it is going to be fair and the right guy will win (unlike Willams/Lara, Lewis/Holyfield, Kirkland/Molina, Alexander/Mathyese etc etc)

[L.J.KEYS.]

Ward is the best fighter alive after Mayweather. Froch is one of my all time favourite fighters but I don't believe he can beat Ward, although he would give Ward the best run for his money if it was in Nottingham and he performed like the force of nature he was on Saturday

[kwilson71]

Froch don't want them problems,stay clear of Ward

[HooliganCentral]

I think Ward would probably win but if he wants to be considered one of the greats he simply MUST travel away and beat the likes of Froch and Kessler.

A return could be very interesting as there's no way Froch will stand off Ward like he did last time. He'll go straight for the KO.

[Atlanta]

Originally Posted by Big Left

i think the point is clear, home advantage is massive. some fighters just can do their best when having to worry about travelling, time zones, support etc.

refs/judges are something. you gotta assume 9/10 times it is going to be fair and the right guy will win (unlike Willams/Lara, Lewis/Holyfield, Kirkland/Molina, Alexander/Mathyese etc etc)

yes, your entire argument is based on the ref and judges being incompetent.

[Big Left]

Originally Posted by Atlanta

yes, your entire argument is based on the ref and judges being incompetent.

Nah, it applies to almost all sports not just boxing.

BTW - it wasn't my argument, I just agreed with the guy.

[Icanteach2005]

Originally Posted by jeffjoiner

Posts like these amaze me. Froch's handspeed will somehow magically improve and he will be able to land consistently on Ward if the fight is in the UK? And Ward's defense and handspeed will instantly falter once he breathes English air?

I like Froch. I get the animosity that Ward didn't travel overseas during the Super Six. But you could put these two anywhere on the planet and Ward is a stylistic nightmare for Froch.

Could not have said it better myself...

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by Atlanta

yes, your entire argument is based on the ref and judges being incompetent.

Your entire argument is based on Ward having every possible advantage going for him. You're assuming that he would perform just as well away from home in front of a hostile crowd as well as in Oakland. I'm not saying he's a bottle job, he won his Olympic gold in Greece, but he hasn't had to go to the lengths that the likes of Kessler and Froch have undeservedly had to go to to fight him. No-one doubts his skills, but I'd like to see how he copes with fighting abroad in a hostile environment. All of his opponents had to go through that, he should have to at some point.

[IntentionalButt]

I gave Froch a single round the first time, and with Ward being the more adaptable of the two I'm not sure he'd even be able to get that in a rematch.

Really a pointless exercise; hopefully Ward goes up to LHW. Better for his own legacy (if he succeeds) and much better for the SMW division since he doesn't have any challenges left and it frees up the more exciting and marketable Froch to be #1.

[Hermit]

Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

I gave Froch a single round the first time, and with Ward being the more adaptable of the two I'm not sure he'd even be able to get that in a rematch.

Really a pointless exercise; hopefully Ward goes up to LHW. Better for his own legacy (if he succeeds) and much better for the SMW division since he doesn't have any challenges left and it frees up the more exciting and marketable Froch to be #1.

Well, apparently Froch is allowed cement wraps in Nottingham so that would make it more interesting.

[dealt_with]

Originally Posted by Big Left

it seems most ward fans do not ever want to see him fight again, like every possible match up is below him so why bother??

He's fighting Dawson next, a far higher calibre fighter than Froch. Going to be a great fight. Froch isn't good enough for Ward, Ward beat him in every category when they fought. Ward hurt Froch and Ward was never hurt so I don't understand why you would claim that Ward is chinny...

[dealt_with]

Originally Posted by HooliganCentral

I think Ward would probably win but if he wants to be considered one of the greats he simply MUST travel away and beat the likes of Froch and Kessler.

A return could be very interesting as there's no way Froch will stand off Ward like he did last time. He'll go straight for the KO.

You need to watch the Ward-Froch fight again. Froch tried everything, he got outmuscled and outboxed on the inside and outside.
Also Ward is probably the mentally toughest fighter I've ever seen, I honestly don't think travel would affect him in the slightest.

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by Hermit

Well, apparently Froch is allowed cement wraps in Nottingham so that would make it more interesting.

Ward will see his plaster and raise him a billygoat charge.

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[PetethePrince]

Originally Posted by Big Left

it seems most ward fans do not ever want to see him fight again, like every possible match up is below him so why bother??

He's fighting Dawson next. Got a better matchup for him?