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Old 05-30-2012, 07:25 PM   #61
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Default Re: Cleverly asks Frank to make the Bellew fight

So, lets get this straight. Clev is getting credit for wanting to fight Tony Bellew again? I know its an interesting "local derby" but thats about all it is in the greater scheme of things.
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Old 05-30-2012, 07:36 PM   #62
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Bellew is clearly the better boxer, just gassed out a bit, Clev's stamina got him the nod.
Yes and those targeted body shots from the first round onwards didn't help either!
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Old 05-30-2012, 07:45 PM   #63
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I feel like I'm witnessing the re-writing of history here
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Old 05-30-2012, 08:48 PM   #64
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Yup, this thread is a wee bit "out there".
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Old 05-30-2012, 08:54 PM   #65
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Has some sort of collective madness taken hold here?
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:02 PM   #66
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It looks good on Cleverly. As far as I'm concerned the boxer should call the shots. If he wants to fight Bellew let him. i hope a lot of boxers see the praise Carl Froch is getting and decide they want/need to do the same and just fight top class opposition instead of bum of the month.
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this is what the likes of hatton and calzaghe should have done. clev could sit there and fight 10 bums in a row with the excuse "its up to my promotor" now but he has GONE PUBLIC and put pressure on his promotor.

FAIR PLAY TO CLEV

GIVE THIS SCOUSER ANOTHER BEATING CLEV!!!!


(Lirvas especially!)
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:09 PM   #67
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unfortunately the bellew ****suckers have basically convinced themselves that he is the second coming.

the guy who got bounced off the canvas by a journeyman (and im not talking about mckenzie) and then ran from a journeyman for 12 rounds. not to mention getting clearly beaten by clev but of course bellew was robbed according to people on here. i wonder when bellew is going to fight dawson and KO him and then move up to cruiser and KO all the top fighters there. the klitschkos also better be on the run because bellew could even move up and spark them. it doesn't matter that hes limited, he's bomber bellew.
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:14 PM   #68
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Yes and those targeted body shots from the first round onwards didn't help either!
it wasnt the body shots. bellew was clearly in control and was wiping the floor with clev before he ran out of gas. if bellew had trained a bit harder and ran a few more miles each week he would have won. it was only his stamina that let him down. bellew was robbed by his stamina.
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Old 05-31-2012, 02:54 AM   #69
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Default Re: Cleverly asks Frank to make the Bellew fight

Bellew has been acting like a child since he lost to clev. always bitching and making comments.
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Old 05-31-2012, 03:02 AM   #70
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bellew lost to clev - and now wants too jump ship

its the same with that poof degale , he lost too groves and wants too jump ship
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Old 05-31-2012, 03:09 AM   #71
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it wasnt the body shots. bellew was clearly in control and was wiping the floor with clev before he ran out of gas. if bellew had trained a bit harder and ran a few more miles each week he would have won. it was only his stamina that let him down. bellew was robbed by his stamina.
This is the stupidest post in history.

Seriously, are you really this stupid?

Do you think that Bellew didn't train at his absolute best for his (unwarranted) shot a world title?

Do you think that Cleverly had nothing to do with the fact he "gassed", especially given the fact that he was landing clean body shots all night? (slight exaggeration but still)

Believe me, there is a lot more to it (Bellew losing) than simply not "running a few extra miles each week".

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Old 05-31-2012, 03:12 AM   #72
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clev has gone to bellews hometown and fought him. he didn't mouth on about leaving bellew unconscious etc etc etc. he has a degree and is a sensible lad that has shown respect to all yet bellew gets much more respect than clev on here

shocking really.
This is a very good post though.
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Old 05-31-2012, 03:20 AM   #73
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Its best for both that this rematch doesn't happen yet.

Bellew should move to Matchroom/Sky (which he is apparently), and get built up Brook-style i.e. fight fringe world level/euro contenders. He'll probably beat them and look pretty good.

Clev should also fight some world level guys in the meantime.

In 12 months time both will have improved, not only their ability but their standing/ranking so its a no brainer that the rematch would be better AND make them more money.

IMO Clev beat Bellew in his backyard, with a shorter than normal training camp and an injured rib. If they fought now, in Wales I can only see a wider decision win for Clev.
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Old 05-31-2012, 03:56 AM   #74
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Its best for both that this rematch doesn't happen yet.

Bellew should move to Matchroom/Sky (which he is apparently), and get built up Brook-style i.e. fight fringe world level/euro contenders. He'll probably beat them and look pretty good.

Clev should also fight some world level guys in the meantime.

In 12 months time both will have improved, not only their ability but their standing/ranking so its a no brainer that the rematch would be better AND make them more money.

IMO Clev beat Bellew in his backyard, with a shorter than normal training camp and an injured rib. If they fought now, in Wales I can only see a wider decision win for Clev.
Once Bellew moves to Matchroom, do you think this fight will ever happen while Clev is with Frank?

If this doesn't happen this year, I can't see it happening in the short/medium term.
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Old 05-31-2012, 03:57 AM   #75
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If Bellew leave Fisheyes there is a good chance that he will never see his rematch but personally I'd prefer the rematch when they are both world champs. I have no doubt that Bells is capable. Same goes for Groves - Degale, both capable and would be much bigger fights (much bigger for British boxing)
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