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View Poll Results: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao - do you even care?
Yes. 216 81.51%
No. 17 6.42%
I used to. 32 12.08%
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:30 PM   #35671
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I said similar. Have a look yourself, you'll find several very similar.



We all know that's what you're getting at with this thread. It's old, so ****in' old.
i know there was none. if there was, i would just bump it. if there was one that i missed, then please link it for me. otherwise, stop your usual whining.

again instead of whining, just contribute to the thread. if floyd exceeded your expectations more, feel free to share your story. no need to feel butthurt by other's response.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:31 PM   #35672
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This guy here. Has beat everyone he's ever faced, except Mayweather.

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Not incredibly fast.
Not incredibly powerful.
No incredible reflexes.
No incredible chin.
Not incredbly big.
Not a young lion, but an old wise lion.

But a legend.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:34 PM   #35673
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This guy here. Has beat everyone he's ever faced, except Mayweather.

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Not incredibly fast.
Not incredibly powerful.
No incredible reflexes.
No incredible chin.
Not incredbly big.
Not a young lion, but an old wise lion.

But a legend.


First decent post in this thread.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:35 PM   #35674
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i know there was none. if there was, i would just bump it. if there was one that i missed, then please link it for me. otherwise, stop your usual whining.

again instead of whining, just contribute to the thread. if floyd exceeded your expectations more, feel free to share your story. no need to feel butthurt by other's response.

LOL@ You, of all people, talking about butthurt.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:37 PM   #35675
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so a noob ***** suggested that pac should have fought williams at WW instead of oscar back then and you are riding that bandwagon?

i already proven you guys that williams has already fought as a MW when pac first fought as a WW. also after oscar, pac fought the other relevant WWs at the time while williams stayed at the higher weight and floyd fought marquez.

so you guys are saying that pac should have fought williams instead of oscar at 147 then? are you saying that pac should have fought williams instead of hatton and williams instead of cotto?
Nope I'm not saying that, I'm playing devils advocate here. People like to say floyd is always afraid to fight the best and pac fights the best and gives us the fights the fans want. This is ****ing absurd.

Nobody wanting the David Diaz fight, nobody wanted the clottey fight, nobody wanted the margarito fight and nobody wanted the shane shot to **** mosley fight.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:39 PM   #35676
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LOL@ You, of all people, talking about butthurt.
I don't think I've ever heard one person in real life say "butthurt". It must be some flip-inspired, internet vernacular.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:41 PM   #35677
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Nope I'm not saying that, I'm playing devils advocate here. People like to say floyd is always afraid to fight the best and pac fights the best and gives us the fights the fans want. This is ****ing absurd.

Nobody wanting the David Diaz fight, nobody wanted the clottey fight, nobody wanted the margarito fight and nobody wanted the shane shot to **** mosley fight.
this thread is not about this. it is about expectations and what they achieved. who has done more with their talent and skills. which fighter has proven us wrong more.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:42 PM   #35678
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Pac is by far less talented
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:42 PM   #35679
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btw, exceeding expectations is a good feat. but a re**** who learns why 2+2=4 is exceeding expectations.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:44 PM   #35680
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To answer the question, Pacquiao has exceeded expectation much more.

Simply put, Floyd was grew up in boxing. Dad and 2 uncles were talented pros. Floyd was an olympian, and was groomed to be a champion (or multiple) as soon as he turned pro. So him winning a lot of title is more or less warranted by his abilities. Though winning it 6 times was exceeding expectations as well.

On the other hand, Pac was a wild swinging slugger who has only his power and fighting heart as a foundation. Plus he was already stopped. He was an underdog on his first title shot for starters, simply because Sasakul was better skilled. And it showed, it was only his power that saved the day. Then he got stopped again and few people thought he'll be a champion again. But he did. And then the achievements piled up, the win over Ledwaba, Barrera and beyond.

So in terms of expectations, it was Pacquiao.
fair points.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:47 PM   #35681
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Pac is by far less talented
i wouldn't say less talented and that far. pac is a talented fighter. fast, high workrate, good power, underated defense and technical skill. also his ring generalship is severely underrated basing of the 3 close fights aginst marquez who is a stylistic nightmare to pac.
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also his ring generalship is severely underrated basing of the 3 close fights aginst marquez who is a stylistic nightmare to pac.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:58 PM   #35683
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this is not the thread topic but i can comment on this. pacquiao having close fights (having won 2 and drawn one) against his stylistic nightmare in jmm is not a minus to pac's ring generalship. pac can actually make this a harder and a stinker if he would stop being the aggressor in the first place and just wait for jmm to initialize in every opportunity and be a counter-puncher solely. knowing that jmm would not take that much of a chance, this would be a very boring fight. pac brought the figth to jmm, and expectedly struggled against a superb counterpuncher.

so your turn now and kindly give your answer for this thread.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:59 PM   #35684
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Yes another Pacquiao-Mayweather poll....

Who among these two great fighters have done more with less talent and skills, has accomplished more with lesser expectations? Who among the two always surprised us and has proven us wrong more than the other?
another mayweather pacquiao poll
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Old 06-02-2012, 03:02 PM   #35685
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this thread is not about this. it is about expectations and what they achieved. who has done more with their talent and skills. which fighter has proven us wrong more.
What the hell is proven us wrong more bull****?

Pac just lost to old man marquez, only thing he proved is that he ain't improved since their 1st fight
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