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Old 06-03-2012, 02:09 AM   #1
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Default How much does Vitali's comeback add to his legacy?

Vitali retired at age 33, with a record of 35-2 (34). His two most significant fights were stoppage losses due to injury, with Klitschko fully conscious and ahead on all scorecards. Though Byrd legitimately won the fight, most observers feel that Vitali had dominated him before the injury. The Lewis loss was a classic fight against a top-level ATG that did nothing to harm Vitali's legacy. After Lewis turned down a rematch and retired, Vitali won the WBC belt and defended twice in emphatic style, establishing himself as one half of the division's dominant force. Then he retired due to a growing list of injuries. So that was a good career for the big Ukrainian.

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After four years away, he came back at age 37 and immediately challenged the consensus #2 guy in the division, a powerful pressure fighter whose only loss was to the reigning champion and who had gone 6-0 against good competition since. Vitali won basically every minute of every round and became the first man to stop Sam Peter.

In his comeback Vitali has gone 9-0 (6) against a variety of styles. He doesn't have a good division, but he tries to fight the best competition available. He has remained absolutely dominant against average to lesser competition up until the age of 40.

SO.

How much does Vitali's 2nd career help his historical standing? He still lacks career-defining victories against ATGs, but coming back after such a long layoff and being so dominant against mediocre competition has to add a lot. There aren't many fighters in HW history who could have taken 4 years off, returned at age 37 and remained undefeated against Vitali's competition for the next three years.

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Old 06-03-2012, 05:27 AM   #2
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I believe his second career is very significant to his legacy and will enhance it considerably. I have him s****ing the bottom of the top twenty, and certainly wouldn't have him so high had he retired after Danny Williams.

I feel the same way about Foreman. His first career, while good, was not something that would necessarily have made him a top 10. I think his recapture of a HW title sealed the deal.

And Hopkins' MW career was very decent, but it was his resume post-Taylor that has brought him legendary status.

Klitschko is not quite up there withe Foreman or Hopkins, but the point is the same.

The comeback has certainly enhanced his legacy.
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:36 AM   #3
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In his comeback Vitali has gone 9-0 (6) against a variety of styles. He doesn't have a good division, but he tries to fight the best competition available. He has remained absolutely dominant against average to lesser competition up until the age of 40.

There aren't many fighters in HW history who could have remained undefeated against Vitali's competition for three years.

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Old 06-03-2012, 05:44 AM   #4
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:53 AM   #5
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It tended to show folks that had not watched his whole career that the guy was a pretty good fighter. And that he was a guy with a trait not given much respect in the overall scheme of things--he knew how to win fights.
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I believe his second career is very significant to his legacy and will enhance it considerably. I have him s****ing the bottom of the top twenty, and certainly wouldn't have him so high had he retired after Danny Williams.

I feel the same way about Foreman. His first career, while good, was not something that would necessarily have made him a top 10. I think his recapture of a HW title sealed the deal.

And Hopkins' MW career was very decent, but it was his resume post-Taylor that has brought him legendary status.

Klitschko is not quite up there withe Foreman or Hopkins, but the point is the same.

The comeback has certainly enhanced his legacy.
Definitely. His comeback is a big part of his legacy.
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Old 06-03-2012, 08:11 AM   #7
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I think his comeback is what makes him one of the significant heavyweights.
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