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Old 06-11-2012, 06:24 AM   #16
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Round 1

No one is doing a bunch of anything this round, Bradley's pitter-atter jab stays in Manny's face almost the entire round, 10-9 Bradley as two or three solid punches does not earn you a round.

Round 2

Pausing round 2 briefly, can already see how people are going to use the compubox numbers against Bradley, he's throwing the left jab out to keep Manny at bay. Unpausing.
Had Manny backing up most of the round, towards the end of the round, dropped his gloves and let Manny swing on him, missing virtually all of the swings. 20-18 Bradley

Round 3

Pausing round 3 briefly. Bradley is out Mannying Manny, basically just throwing punches out there. Making Manny pick his spots. Unpausing.
Pacquiao finally woke up and if I have to give anyone this round, it'd be him. 29-28 Bradley. Pacquiao did more, but a lot of these punches are missing from him.
The thing that is surprising me thus far. Manny is not walking through these punches. Bradley has paltry KO numbers, but Manny is backpedaling most thus far in this fight

Round 4
Harold Lederman's care has just flashed on the screen. 30-27 is just wrong. I could just hear lampley going crazy of whatever manny is doing now.I have sound on mute. I don't know what fight he is watching thus far.
So far on the official score cards, all three have Manny 29-28

Pausing, this is some sloppy ass boxing from both fighters, unpausing
Manny thinks he's found something with a left uppercut as he's gone to it a few times, yet is hitting air
Bradley is still, for the most part, in Manny's face.
Last minute of the round wins it for Pacquiao as he finally starts to let the hands go and was quicker to the punch, lol. Most explosive punches and combos were landed by him and made Bradley stumble and lose his footing
38-38

Round 5

LMFAO with this biased HBO feed. They make it seem like Bradley was there for target practice. Every ****ing round has Manny clips. HAHAHAHA
Admittedly, round 4 was the clearest round thus far by any fighter.
Pausing. Bradley starts off the round with ring generalship, controlling the middle of the round. He's done this every one. Judges look at this as one barometer for who is in control. Only when someone has made a name for themselves on defense like a Floyd or a Pernell, will judges not hold this against you. Unpausing
Pausing. Finally with two minutes left in the round, does Manny choose to stalk Bradley as Bradley is backpedalling, Unpausing.
Pausing, he's doing a decent job staying out of the way of Manny's straight left. Most are just grazing his head. Still counts as a power shot on Compubox though. Also, Bradley is flickering his jab out, but seems less frequent.Unpausing
I have no idea why Bradley decided he wanted to start brawling here as Manny again stumbled Bradley.
48-47 Pacquiao

Round 6

Thoughts thus far. Neither is landing a lot clean. Manny has won his rounds based on this cleaner punches though while Bradley has won on pure aggression by staying in Manny's face and peppering him with jabs, just basically being more active. If I know Jim Lampley as well as I think I do, he has people thinking this is a whitewash thus far, when it clearly is not, however, at this point, Manny is ahead of my card
Pausing. Manny came ouf of the corner first, but then resumed his role of letting Bradley throw weak jabs at him for the first part of virtually every round. Basically what Manny did to Clottey all fight, Unpausing
At the 2:20 mark, Manny takes role of aggressor, then reverts back to throwing his arms up to guard.
I feel that they both did roughly the same and this is my first toss-up round, but I think I need to give this to Pacquaio but of the stuff that was happening in the corner and Manny let loose for a bit. These are by no means clean shots that either are really throwing though.
58-56 Pacquiao

Round 7

More of the ****ery from HBO on round 6, however, that stuff in the corner was worth showing.
At this point in time, the three judges has it 59-56, 58-56, 58-56, all in favor of Pacquiao
Pausing, midway point of round, both are swing wild for the fences. Manny is controlling ring now Unpausing
Pausing, as 27 punches to Pacquaio vs 9 to Bradley just flashed, that is bull ****ing shit. Much closer, but Manny won this round.
68-65 Pacquiao

Round 8

Thoughts so far. Bradley is backing up, but he's not laying any traps. Manny moves forward in a straight line, not cutting off of the ring at any point of this fight. Bradley looks like he's trying to control distance and box. Good idea, he's lost five rounds in a row on my card
Pretty lackluster round but it was a Bradley round. Interestingly enough. Jinkee Pacquiao was jumping up and down eariler. There is a look of concern on her face now.
77-75 Pacquaio

Round 9

Thoughts as the minute between rounds passes. These numbers are bogus from compubox. I feel that they are when Floyd fights and they are in this fight.
80-72 Pacquiao by Lederman SMDH
Pausing. Manny is doing a lot of smiling, but he's not doing a lot of throwing punches. Bradley still tossing that weak left jab out there. However, it shows that Bradley has Manny's timing down as his left has been shut down. Unpausing.
By the middle of the round, I thought Manny sealed this with a bow, then Bradley came back with some stuff of his own. Do I give the round for harder punching or for more agression and weaker punches. Can' t decide, round is a draw
87-85 Manny

Round 10

So far on official score cards, 88-83 Manny, 86-85 Manny, 85-86 Bradley
Pausing, finally seeing Bradley's jab slip through the guard of Manny consistently. Unpausing
Pausing, Bradley fully back to boxing it seems, he's controlling where the fight is going now. Manny is still following in straight line. Unpausing
Manny wakes up in like the last 15 seconds of the round. This is Bradley's clearest round yet. Punching (wide) off of ref separations, outpunching in the few clinches and controlling the action.
96-95 Manny

Round 11
Thoughts between rounds, more Manny highlight stuff. I mean, is HBO trying to pitch Manny gear here? Bradley, while not as flashy, as done some good things thus far. Geez
Lederman finally gives Bradley a round, lol. As I stated, that was a clear Bradley round. All three official score cards show that as well
Pausing, neither has been in any real danger, Manny seems content to let Tim throw jabs all day. Whenever Bradley has been able to slow down the workrate of Manny, he's made him look like a club fighter, like he did in round 10 and so far, this has the makings of the same thing. Unpausing.
Pausing, Bradley is turning Manny at will, (weak) left jab to the face, rinse and repeat, Unpausing.
Ring generalship and the left jab won it for Bradley
105-105 - Tie

Round 12
Thoughts so far, boring fight. Jinkee sit emotionless. So does Tim's wife
Pausing. Pitty-Pat left jab, pitty-pat left jab, zzzzzzzzzzzzz. Unpausing
Pausing. I don't know why Tim decided to get froggy and scrap with Manny again. That's how he gave up all those middle rounds. Unpausing.
Round was a draw.

Fight was 115-115

I can see the fight going either way, depending on how you judge scoring.
Lackluster fight. You know who beats either with ease on their best day.

So, robbery, this was not.
You give all the benefit of the doubt to Bradley and give him all the close rounds and at best you come up with a draw like this one and THEN you say "oh look if you only give 1 more round to Bradley he wins". Well you cant give 1 more round to Bradley because you would have to give him one of the rounds that Pac clearly won (just like the judges did with round 5)
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:23 AM   #22
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It is what it is.......based on the reactions from the world of boxing and sport fans as a whole, It's pretty clear NO ONE really gives TIM any credit. It's a little sad because TIM didn't ask to be embarrassed like this. People think TIM had something to do with the robbery when all be did was try his best.

Pac of course didn't deserve this blemish on his resume and boxing really didn't need another "black eye"....especially not when it involves one of our high profile athletes in a big PPV event......boxing will look like the WWE to the average fan if we continue to produce these robberies when the world is watching. I'm still going to watch.....love the sport but ask me if I will ever place a money bet on any boxing matches?

I pride myself on being a realist.....realistically if you bet on boxing you never know what the end result will be... in that regard it's the ultimate gamble.
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:34 AM   #24
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:34 AM   #25
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Hey....I'd take an ass whoopin' for $5 mill, the win and a chance at double up on the profits in before the end of the year. I wonder if Tim had a chance to re-watch the fight? To make sure "who won".
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Couldn't you have at least made this piece a little cleaner? And the JCC vs Whitaker fight was a true robbery..... JMM vs PAC 3 was a close fight where we had the unpopular verdict.... Robberies and Close fights are vastly different.
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Round 1

No one is doing a bunch of anything this round, Bradley's pitter-atter jab stays in Manny's face almost the entire round, 10-9 Bradley as two or three solid punches does not earn you a round.

Round 2

Pausing round 2 briefly, can already see how people are going to use the compubox numbers against Bradley, he's throwing the left jab out to keep Manny at bay. Unpausing.
Had Manny backing up most of the round, towards the end of the round, dropped his gloves and let Manny swing on him, missing virtually all of the swings. 20-18 Bradley

Round 3

Pausing round 3 briefly. Bradley is out Mannying Manny, basically just throwing punches out there. Making Manny pick his spots. Unpausing.
Pacquiao finally woke up and if I have to give anyone this round, it'd be him. 29-28 Bradley. Pacquiao did more, but a lot of these punches are missing from him.
The thing that is surprising me thus far. Manny is not walking through these punches. Bradley has paltry KO numbers, but Manny is backpedaling most thus far in this fight

Round 4
Harold Lederman's care has just flashed on the screen. 30-27 is just wrong. I could just hear lampley going crazy of whatever manny is doing now.I have sound on mute. I don't know what fight he is watching thus far.
So far on the official score cards, all three have Manny 29-28

Pausing, this is some sloppy ass boxing from both fighters, unpausing
Manny thinks he's found something with a left uppercut as he's gone to it a few times, yet is hitting air
Bradley is still, for the most part, in Manny's face.
Last minute of the round wins it for Pacquiao as he finally starts to let the hands go and was quicker to the punch, lol. Most explosive punches and combos were landed by him and made Bradley stumble and lose his footing
38-38

Round 5

LMFAO with this biased HBO feed. They make it seem like Bradley was there for target practice. Every ****ing round has Manny clips. HAHAHAHA
Admittedly, round 4 was the clearest round thus far by any fighter.
Pausing. Bradley starts off the round with ring generalship, controlling the middle of the round. He's done this every one. Judges look at this as one barometer for who is in control. Only when someone has made a name for themselves on defense like a Floyd or a Pernell, will judges not hold this against you. Unpausing
Pausing. Finally with two minutes left in the round, does Manny choose to stalk Bradley as Bradley is backpedalling, Unpausing.
Pausing, he's doing a decent job staying out of the way of Manny's straight left. Most are just grazing his head. Still counts as a power shot on Compubox though. Also, Bradley is flickering his jab out, but seems less frequent.Unpausing
I have no idea why Bradley decided he wanted to start brawling here as Manny again stumbled Bradley.
48-47 Pacquiao

Round 6

Thoughts thus far. Neither is landing a lot clean. Manny has won his rounds based on this cleaner punches though while Bradley has won on pure aggression by staying in Manny's face and peppering him with jabs, just basically being more active. If I know Jim Lampley as well as I think I do, he has people thinking this is a whitewash thus far, when it clearly is not, however, at this point, Manny is ahead of my card
Pausing. Manny came ouf of the corner first, but then resumed his role of letting Bradley throw weak jabs at him for the first part of virtually every round. Basically what Manny did to Clottey all fight, Unpausing
At the 2:20 mark, Manny takes role of aggressor, then reverts back to throwing his arms up to guard.
I feel that they both did roughly the same and this is my first toss-up round, but I think I need to give this to Pacquaio but of the stuff that was happening in the corner and Manny let loose for a bit. These are by no means clean shots that either are really throwing though.
58-56 Pacquiao

Round 7

More of the ****ery from HBO on round 6, however, that stuff in the corner was worth showing.
At this point in time, the three judges has it 59-56, 58-56, 58-56, all in favor of Pacquiao
Pausing, midway point of round, both are swing wild for the fences. Manny is controlling ring now Unpausing
Pausing, as 27 punches to Pacquaio vs 9 to Bradley just flashed, that is bull ****ing shit. Much closer, but Manny won this round.
68-65 Pacquiao

Round 8

Thoughts so far. Bradley is backing up, but he's not laying any traps. Manny moves forward in a straight line, not cutting off of the ring at any point of this fight. Bradley looks like he's trying to control distance and box. Good idea, he's lost five rounds in a row on my card
Pretty lackluster round but it was a Bradley round. Interestingly enough. Jinkee Pacquiao was jumping up and down eariler. There is a look of concern on her face now.
77-75 Pacquaio

Round 9

Thoughts as the minute between rounds passes. These numbers are bogus from compubox. I feel that they are when Floyd fights and they are in this fight.
80-72 Pacquiao by Lederman SMDH
Pausing. Manny is doing a lot of smiling, but he's not doing a lot of throwing punches. Bradley still tossing that weak left jab out there. However, it shows that Bradley has Manny's timing down as his left has been shut down. Unpausing.
By the middle of the round, I thought Manny sealed this with a bow, then Bradley came back with some stuff of his own. Do I give the round for harder punching or for more agression and weaker punches. Can' t decide, round is a draw
87-85 Manny

Round 10

So far on official score cards, 88-83 Manny, 86-85 Manny, 85-86 Bradley
Pausing, finally seeing Bradley's jab slip through the guard of Manny consistently. Unpausing
Pausing, Bradley fully back to boxing it seems, he's controlling where the fight is going now. Manny is still following in straight line. Unpausing
Manny wakes up in like the last 15 seconds of the round. This is Bradley's clearest round yet. Punching (wide) off of ref separations, outpunching in the few clinches and controlling the action.
96-95 Manny

Round 11
Thoughts between rounds, more Manny highlight stuff. I mean, is HBO trying to pitch Manny gear here? Bradley, while not as flashy, as done some good things thus far. Geez
Lederman finally gives Bradley a round, lol. As I stated, that was a clear Bradley round. All three official score cards show that as well
Pausing, neither has been in any real danger, Manny seems content to let Tim throw jabs all day. Whenever Bradley has been able to slow down the workrate of Manny, he's made him look like a club fighter, like he did in round 10 and so far, this has the makings of the same thing. Unpausing.
Pausing, Bradley is turning Manny at will, (weak) left jab to the face, rinse and repeat, Unpausing.
Ring generalship and the left jab won it for Bradley
105-105 - Tie

Round 12
Thoughts so far, boring fight. Jinkee sit emotionless. So does Tim's wife
Pausing. Pitty-Pat left jab, pitty-pat left jab, zzzzzzzzzzzzz. Unpausing
Pausing. I don't know why Tim decided to get froggy and scrap with Manny again. That's how he gave up all those middle rounds. Unpausing.
Round was a draw.

Fight was 115-115

I can see the fight going either way, depending on how you judge scoring.
Lackluster fight. You know who beats either with ease on their best day.

So, robbery, this was not.
thanks for posting this. I rewatched the fight yesterday and only gave Timmeh 3-4 rounds. That will be the last time I score the entire fight in one session. It simply a mind**** to score because of this:

"Manny has won his rounds based on this cleaner punches though while Bradley has won on pure aggression by staying in Manny's face and peppering him with jabs, just basically being more active."

emmanuel who relies heavily on volume fought a tactically dumb fight. He was often inactive for large portions of the rounds.
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