Martinez against the tops at 154: does he whip em all? If so, why is Ward higher p4p?

[Saccowalace]

guy came to the states for more exposure and has called out many from 154-160 and cant get fights, not his fault. they people want to say he is ducking no name euro bums like pirog and golovkin. he left europe for a reason

[turbotime]

Originally Posted by megavolt

I still think if that were the case Martinez would be closely but solidly above Ward.

Didn't wanna play the discredit game but come on- Dawson was in the mix with Pascal and a 46 year old BHOP

Dawson beat Hopkins handily. The Pascal fight was weird but still, I think losing to Pascal is better than losing to Quintana.

we're splitting hairs so I think we'll have to wait until their next fight

[PrinceN]

Originally Posted by Saccowalace

who has he beat to earn that title???? LOL

we won the Super 6 Have you seen Wards skills in the ring?

[Saccowalace]

Originally Posted by PrinceN

we won the Super 6 Have you seen Wards skills in the ring?

super 6 was a joke of a tournament

[turbotime]

Originally Posted by Saccowalace

who has he beat to earn that title???? LOL

Holy fuck really?

[Saccowalace]

Originally Posted by turbotime

Holy fuck really?

who becides maybe kessler?

froch - overrated

green - overrated

abraham - overrated

fucking bika gave him hell LOL

[turbotime]

Originally Posted by Saccowalace

who becides maybe kessler?

froch - overrated

green - overrated

abraham - overrated

fucking bika gave him hell LOL

And williams beat Martinez.

[Saccowalace]

Originally Posted by turbotime

And williams beat Martinez.

everone who watched the first fight knows that was very close and controversial, i actually thought martinez won. he took the fight on like 3 weeks notice on top of that LOL

dont act like it was a clear cut victory for williams

[turbotime]

Originally Posted by Saccowalace

everone who watched the first fight knows that was very close and controversial, i actually thought martinez won. he took the fight on like 3 weeks notice on top of that LOL

dont act like it was a clear cut victory for williams

I said it wasn't, it was close but no "elite fighters" should be fighting close ones with williams at 160, he is too out of weight there

[Saccowalace]

Originally Posted by turbotime

I said it wasn't, it was close but no "elite fighters" should be fighting close ones with williams at 160, he is too out of weight there

dude is like 9 feet tall what are you smoking

[turbotime]

Originally Posted by Saccowalace

dude is like 9 feet tall what are you smoking

I dont care how tall he is. How good is Caballero at middleweight ?

[jso416]

Originally Posted by turbotime

I said it wasn't, it was close but no "elite fighters" should be fighting close ones with williams at 160, he is too out of weight there

Most people said that about Serge going into the fight .. Kind of Ironic.

[turbotime]

Originally Posted by jso416

Most people said thought that about Serge going into the fight .. Kind of Ironic.

Not me. Pretty clear Serg is the more fit fighter at MW. Williams is a fucking beanpole

[Saccowalace]

Originally Posted by turbotime

Not me. Pretty clear Serg is the more fit fighter at MW. Williams is a fucking beanpole

the guy has weighed in at 158 his last 2 fights easy

he cant loose 4 more pounds? I think he can

hense he is not a full size middleweight

PERIOD

[jso416]

Originally Posted by turbotime

Not me. Pretty clear Serg is the more fit fighter at MW. Williams is a fucking beanpole

Maybe, but that's not Serge's fault.. PW picked the weight and was the huge favorite.