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Old 06-14-2012, 09:19 PM   #46
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Default Re: Martinez against the tops at 154: does he whip em all? If so, why is Ward higher

guy came to the states for more exposure and has called out many from 154-160 and cant get fights, not his fault. they people want to say he is ducking no name euro bums like pirog and golovkin. he left europe for a reason
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:19 PM   #47
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I still think if that were the case Martinez would be closely but solidly above Ward.

Didn't wanna play the discredit game but come on- Dawson was in the mix with Pascal and a 46 year old BHOP
Dawson beat Hopkins handily. The Pascal fight was weird but still, I think losing to Pascal is better than losing to Quintana.

we're splitting hairs so I think we'll have to wait until their next fight
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:21 PM   #48
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who has he beat to earn that title???? LOL
we won the Super 6 Have you seen Wards skills in the ring?
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:22 PM   #49
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we won the Super 6 Have you seen Wards skills in the ring?

super 6 was a joke of a tournament
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:25 PM   #50
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who has he beat to earn that title???? LOL
Holy fuck really?
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:27 PM   #51
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Holy fuck really?


who becides maybe kessler?

froch - overrated

green - overrated

abraham - overrated

fucking bika gave him hell LOL
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:29 PM   #52
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who becides maybe kessler?

froch - overrated

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fucking bika gave him hell LOL
And williams beat Martinez.
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:31 PM   #53
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And williams beat Martinez.


everone who watched the first fight knows that was very close and controversial, i actually thought martinez won. he took the fight on like 3 weeks notice on top of that LOL

dont act like it was a clear cut victory for williams
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:36 PM   #54
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everone who watched the first fight knows that was very close and controversial, i actually thought martinez won. he took the fight on like 3 weeks notice on top of that LOL

dont act like it was a clear cut victory for williams
I said it wasn't, it was close but no "elite fighters" should be fighting close ones with williams at 160, he is too out of weight there
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:38 PM   #55
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I said it wasn't, it was close but no "elite fighters" should be fighting close ones with williams at 160, he is too out of weight there


dude is like 9 feet tall what are you smoking
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:41 PM   #56
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dude is like 9 feet tall what are you smoking
I dont care how tall he is. How good is Caballero at middleweight ?
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:44 PM   #57
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I said it wasn't, it was close but no "elite fighters" should be fighting close ones with williams at 160, he is too out of weight there
Most people said that about Serge going into the fight .. Kind of Ironic.
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:45 PM   #58
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Most people said thought that about Serge going into the fight .. Kind of Ironic.
Not me. Pretty clear Serg is the more fit fighter at MW. Williams is a fucking beanpole
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:47 PM   #59
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Not me. Pretty clear Serg is the more fit fighter at MW. Williams is a fucking beanpole

the guy has weighed in at 158 his last 2 fights easy

he cant loose 4 more pounds? I think he can

hense he is not a full size middleweight

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Old 06-14-2012, 09:47 PM   #60
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Not me. Pretty clear Serg is the more fit fighter at MW. Williams is a fucking beanpole
Maybe, but that's not Serge's fault.. PW picked the weight and was the huge favorite.
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