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Old 06-27-2012, 11:01 PM   #16
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Fun-da-men-tals.

Didn't have them. If Ingle hadn't trained him to fight ass-backwards and instead taught him proper balance, defense and boxing technique, he could have achieved more. Once he ran into a well-schooled, world-class boxer, he looked like an amateur out of his depth.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:15 PM   #17
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Speaking as the future heavyweight champion of the world and a twelve-year-old, I'd like to say that Hamed could've been the greatest p4p fighter in the history of the featherweight division during some of his active years and Manny Stewart's surname only has one 't'.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:16 PM   #18
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Fun-da-men-tals.

Didn't have them. If Ingle hadn't trained him to fight ass-backwards and instead taught him proper balance, defense and boxing technique, he could have achieved more. Once he ran into a well-schooled, world-class boxer, he looked like an amateur out of his depth.
I hope you know he hand hand problems and lost focus please go listen to the manny stew vid.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:31 PM   #19
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But, I'm talking about myself. What's your point, home skillet?
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:55 PM   #20
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History's full of guys like him. Flashy athletic gifts, lots of hype, they don't pan out like folks expect them to, etc.......it boils down to what was ultimately important to him, and that turned out to be the attention he got from his efforts rather than giving himself over to the game entirely, as we imagine the true greats prefer.

Had he continued in any real way after that loss, he could have turned into another Olivares, who had his moments in the sun following a hard loss or two, ultimately bolstering his standing partly due to longevity and partly to the odd decent scalp he claimed here and there. He decided that the gig was up, however, and that there was no way he could continue after such an embarrassment. He'd built himself up to such a degree that he believed his own press, or took to heart his own puffery.

I give him credit for cutting bait when he did, in an odd sort of way. He'd finally learned humility.
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Old 06-28-2012, 02:59 AM   #21
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as above. also he(seems to have) believed that the loss was punishment from god, this has gotta have messed with his head
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:48 AM   #22
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Fun-da-men-tals.

Didn't have them. If Ingle hadn't trained him to fight ass-backwards and instead taught him proper balance, defense and boxing technique, he could have achieved more. Once he ran into a well-schooled, world-class boxer, he looked like an amateur out of his depth.
That's about the size of it. I won some when Barrera beat him, and really enjoyed that fight ,I dislike Mr Hamed.
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:51 AM   #23
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Manny stewart even says naz talent was special he ran from nobody buddy.
Take a trawl back throught the Ring ratings of the time ,you will see a couple of names that are conspicuous by there absence on his resume.









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Buddy.
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:09 AM   #24
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Yes, he should have been. If he'd ever bothered to learn how to defend himself or throw a jab or gained any serious grasp of the fundamentals of boxing, he could have been. But that logic so could so many other heavy-handed guys who flopped as soon as they fought genuine top competition.
Agree, could see the ass whooping from Barrera coming a mile off.
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:10 AM   #25
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That's about the size of it. I won some when Barrera beat him, and really enjoyed that fight ,I dislike Mr Hamed.
Yeah I won a nice few quid on that too.
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:12 AM   #26
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Naz should have been a ATG
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:53 AM   #27
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Naz should have been a ATG
Heavy-handed and a good chin. No fundamentals, average IQ at best. Like others have said, the history of boxing is littered with clowns like him
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:49 AM   #28
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Heavy-handed and a good chin. No fundamentals, average IQ at best. Like others have said, the history of boxing is littered with clowns like him
and great reflexes.

listen to Manny stew
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:14 AM   #29
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SUM < PARTS
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:32 AM   #30
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Hamed's speed, movement, combinations, feinting and defence all deteriated '95 onwards, when at least he should have improved on his defence. He usually won very, very easily, fell in love with his power and just looked for the perfect punch. Like Brother Naz says 'you're looking for that perfect punch, there isn't one'

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Yes, he should have been. If he'd ever bothered to learn how to defend himself or throw a jab or gained any serious grasp of the fundamentals of boxing, he could have been. But that logic so could so many other heavy-handed guys who flopped as soon as they fought genuine top competition.
I think you just confirmed that you haven't watched any of his fights

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He should have stuck with Ingle...
Bomber Graham would have been a better fit

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Manny steward is
a genius.
No, he teaches basics well but he's no genius
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