Interesting read of Hagler vs Loenard & Bobfather

[daprofessor]

Originally Posted by mking

The Bobfather was in charge of it.

he was on bullshit waaaay back then too.

*see leonard vs lalonde.

[Hotsauce]

Originally Posted by daprofessor

ether...like nas dropped it?

yep

[PityTheFool]

Originally Posted by Hotsauce

daprofessor dropping that ether

You got that right.Ray ain't daproff's favourite person.

[daprofessor]

Originally Posted by Hotsauce

yep

thanks.

[daprofessor]

Originally Posted by PityTheFool

You got that right.Ray ain't daproff's favourite person.

u have to understand....i grew up idolizing ali. so when he was done....leonard was looking like the next best thing and i really bought into him as something special. i don't doubt his skills at all. the man was amazing. fast hands...fast feet...unparalleled at the time. but when i started to learn about all the other b.s. it was very disappointing to say the least. and when u factor in guys like dlh and pac trying to emulate him and use that same b.s. formula....it's not good for boxing. the sport already has too much politricks and bullshit. we don't need anymore.

[PityTheFool]

Originally Posted by daprofessor

u have to understand....i grew up idolizing ali. so when he was done....leonard was looking like the next best thing and i really bought into him as something special. i don't doubt his skills at all. the man was amazing. fast hands...fast feet...unparalleled at the time. but when i started to learn about all the other b.s. it was very disappointing to say the least. and when u factor in guys like dlh and pac trying to emulate him and use that same b.s. formula....it's not good for boxing. the sport already has too much politricks and bullshit. we don't need anymore.

I'm not criticising mate.
You're actually one of the posters who,despite having differing opinions to me,brings a bit of substance to the argument.More than a lot of others do with their fanboy logic.

[Aztlan.]

Originally Posted by daprofessor

i NEVER thought hagler/leonard was on the level. hagler acted in ways that were very uncharacteristic of himself. he held back and pulled punches through out the fight. leonard did his normal bullshit. i believe hagler was duped into taking it easy on leonard so that a rematch would be warranted.....and a 2nd huge payday would be sure to come. none of that was in writing....so when leonard opted out of the rematch...hagler retired in disgust with himself for allowing such a thing....and leonard for tricking him. leonard himself has bragged about winning fights during the negotiations....aka....contractual stipulations and mind games. leonard is not the great they make him out to be. that 'no mas' fight was more bullshit.

agreed.

Hagler did hesitate in that fight.

maybe Hagler was threaten before the fight by illuminati "hitmen" to let Leonard win.
then, Hagler misteriously retired without a rematch, and had been living a low-profile actor job in Paris, one of the birthplaces of the illuminati.

these secret organizations have influence over what happens in big sports and the movie industry.
thats why I suspect they were involved in hagler's odd performance against Leonard.