marvin hagler vs dave sands. at same age 26.

swingin · 06-20-2012, 07:47 PM

we never saw the best of sands. he was killed at 26yo (from memory). he would have peaked at about 30yo. he could box or punch, was an older style of fighter and learned from his wins and losses.

hagle was still finding his way at 26 also. i think he had a loss or 2 at that age.

who wins and why.

Bollox · 06-20-2012, 11:19 PM

Hagler, because he was the better fighter

Sands had close to 100 fights by the time he was 26

WhataRock · 06-20-2012, 11:44 PM

Hagler at 26 was pretty much at his peak.

Really hard to say if Sands would have peaked at 30...whats to say he wasn't already there..He had been fighting since 15 and had a lot of miles on the clocks in terms of fights.
I think he was pretty much cut done in his prime

kel · 06-20-2012, 11:56 PM

People trying to put an age number as to when somebody peaks is ridiculous.

Perfect examples are Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis.

At 19 - 22 Tyson would put him in a coma

Age 30+ we all know what happened

I have much respect for Dave Sands but Hagler was the best middleweight (peak) i've seen and that includes Carlos Monzon

Rise Above · 06-24-2012, 03:00 AM

Im a huge fan of Sands and believe he could have been an all time great had he lived but the Marvellous one would have been too much for him.

Ned Kelly · 06-24-2012, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kel

People trying to put an age number as to when somebody peaks is ridiculous.

Perfect examples are Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis.

At 19 - 22 Tyson would put him in a coma

Age 30+ we all know what happened

I have much respect for Dave Sands but Hagler was the best middleweight (peak) i've seen and that includes Carlos Monzon

Lewis beats Tyson at any age, Tyson is the most overrated champ ever.

swingin · 06-27-2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ned Kelly

Lewis beats Tyson at any age, Tyson is the most overrated champ ever.

hey ned. you still got your head?

JOSEY WALES · 06-27-2012, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kel

People trying to put an age number as to when somebody peaks is ridiculous.

Perfect examples are Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis.

At 19 - 22 Tyson would put him in a coma

Age 30+ we all know what happened

I have much respect for Dave Sands but Hagler was the best middleweight (peak) i've seen and that includes Carlos Monzon

Disagree with these two comments Kel , Who's to say Lewis wouldnt have shown a young Tyson what Buster showed him ? . And Monson IMO would have beaten Hagler mate but then again I would pick Mickey Walker to best Monson

It's a fucked up world .

Rise Above · 06-28-2012, 09:21 AM

Love the Walker reference Josey. One hell of a fighter who didnt mind taking on blokes much bigger than himself! Definitely a beast at middleweight.

JOSEY WALES · 06-29-2012, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rise Above

Love the Walker reference Josey. One hell of a fighter who didnt mind taking on blokes much bigger than himself! Definitely a beast at middleweight.

Yea agreed Riser also Walker was a bit of a drunk who didn't mind giving verbal abuse to Al Capone on one one occasion apparently ( until Micks mates dragged him outta the function )

crazy stuff mate and his fight with Schmeliing was probably one of the bravest losses i ever saw a fighter take .

CapsLock · 07-02-2012, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ned Kelly

Lewis beats Tyson at any age, Tyson is the most overrated champ ever.

thank god there are still guys with a brain in the aussie forum. tyson puts lewis in a coma?! what kind of retard actually says that

06-20-2012, 07:47 PM	#1
swingin Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,731 vCash: 500	marvin hagler vs dave sands. at same age 26. we never saw the best of sands. he was killed at 26yo (from memory). he would have peaked at about 30yo. he could box or punch, was an older style of fighter and learned from his wins and losses. hagle was still finding his way at 26 also. i think he had a loss or 2 at that age. who wins and why.
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Bollox Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,109 vCash: 500	Re: marvin hagler vs dave sands. at same age 26. Hagler, because he was the better fighter Sands had close to 100 fights by the time he was 26
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WhataRock Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 13,408 vCash: 166	Re: marvin hagler vs dave sands. at same age 26. Hagler at 26 was pretty much at his peak. Really hard to say if Sands would have peaked at 30...whats to say he wasn't already there..He had been fighting since 15 and had a lot of miles on the clocks in terms of fights. I think he was pretty much cut done in his prime
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kel Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,233 vCash: 75	Re: marvin hagler vs dave sands. at same age 26. People trying to put an age number as to when somebody peaks is ridiculous. Perfect examples are Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis. At 19 - 22 Tyson would put him in a coma Age 30+ we all know what happened I have much respect for Dave Sands but Hagler was the best middleweight (peak) i've seen and that includes Carlos Monzon
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