Could Ali Get Away With This Against Wlad?

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Originally Posted by Absolutely!

No, he has a boxer's chance. Same way Norton and Young did against a slightly more faded but still game Ali.

I was responding to Prime Ali v. Wlad. There's a big difference between Prime Ali and Ali that stopped using his feet.

[Vladimir23]

Wlad is a nightmare matchup for Ali.

That rope a dope bullshit won't work against Wlad.

Ali can't outsmart Wlad.

Ali can't outbox Wlad.

Feather fisted Ali can't stop Wlad.

Ali can't outpoint Wlad.

Wlad would destroy Ali.

[Vladimir23]

Wlad is a superior fighter, superior athlete and superior human being.

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[orriray59]

Originally Posted by Vladimir23

Wlad is a nightmare matchup for Ali.

That rope a dope bullshit won't work against Wlad.

Ali can't outsmart Wlad.

Ali can't outbox Wlad.

Feather fisted Ali can't stop Wlad.

Ali can't outpoint Wlad.

Wlad would destroy Ali.

Why would a prime Ali rope a dope Wladimir? He wouldn't, he'd be using movement to offset Wladimir and then attack with blistering speed. Wladimir would be struggling to land.

[tezel8764]

Ali is a nightmare matchup for Wlad.

That jab,jab,grab bullshit won't work against Ali.

Wlad can't outsmart Ali.

Wlad can't outbox Ali.

Robot Wlad can't stop Ali.

Wlad can't outpoint Ali.

Ali will dominate Wlad, then play some golf after.

[Bazooka]

Originally Posted by orriray59

Why would a prime Ali rope a dope Wladimir? He wouldn't, he'd be using movement to offset Wladimir and then attack with blistering speed. Wladimir would be struggling to land.

Wlad would be like a deer stuck in the headlights too much speed, too much of everything really and can Wlad handle the mental attacks that Ali would be bringing each time they meet at the pressers?

I say Ali beats both Klitschkos rather easy

[Ali_]

Originally Posted by CubanHeel

He beat Michael Fucking Moorer with a Hail Mary punch after getting schooled for the entire fight. LHW Moorer that somehow held a belt in, as you say, one of the greatest era in HW history. Farcical. He got a gift against Schulz and beat no one else of note.
The 90's did give us ATG Lewis but otherwise failed to live up to its promise. Bowe had talent but was lazy and ducked Lewis shamelessly before being beaten into retirement by Golota.
Holyfield was a roided up CW and Tyson's career was a sham after his prison stint. Bruce Seldon was a champion in the 90's FFS.
Shake off that nostalgia high and maybe you will remember how the 90's were in reality. An entertaining era but hardly one of pugilistic excellence.

Slice the pie how you like it, the 90's were x2 better than 00's brah! Respect brah! Respect the 90's brah! Respect it brah! Why you disrespecting brah!? World heavyweights brah!!

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Seriously though, I know good and well you aren't trying to make a case for the Wlad by breaking down the other era's of boxing that are clearly better than the current one.

[C.J.]

Originally Posted by CubanHeel

Ali got knocked out by LHW journeyman Henry Cooper and he and his team resorted to cheating to survive in that fight.
If this fight were to happen today Ali would need to show the ref that he is ok to continue, which he wouldn't be able to do, and the fight would be waved off.

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I was at that fight . True Clay was out. What happened with Angelo was superb corner work. He'd noticed a tear in Ali's glove earlier & when he realised they needed more time he put his finger in it made it worse & called the ref. By the time they had it sorted out, mayber2 mins, Clays head was clear and he proceeded to slash Henry's face to ribbons.
Did Angelo cheat??? I prefer to call it superb corner work he saved Clay from probable defeat

[Ali_]

Originally Posted by Vladimir23

Wlad is a nightmare matchup for Ali.

That rope a dope bullshit won't work against Wlad.

Ali can't outsmart Wlad.

Ali can't outbox Wlad.

Feather fisted Ali can't stop Wlad.

Ali can't outpoint Wlad.

Wlad would destroy Ali.

This is the dumbest post in the thread yet.

[C.J.]

I truly cannot believe that knowledgeable boxing fans really believe that robots like Vitali & Wlad could ever bother Ali. A prime Ali could take BOTH Klits out at same time

[Ali_]

Originally Posted by C.J.

I was at that fight . True Clay was out. What happened with Angelo was superb corner work. He'd noticed a tear in Ali's glove earlier & when he realised they needed more time he put his finger in it made it worse & called the ref. By the time they had it sorted out, mayber2 mins, Clays head was clear and he proceeded to slash Henry's face to ribbons.
Did Angelo cheat??? I prefer to call it superb corner work he saved Clay from probable defeat

No existing film of the fight supports the idea that Ali had extra minutes in the fight because of gloves, he had an extra six seconds.

[CubanHeel]

Originally Posted by Ali_

No existing film of the fight supports the idea that Ali had extra minutes in the fight because of gloves, he had an extra six seconds.

Dundee also used smelling salts to help revive Ali, another violation of the rules that should've resulted in a DQ. No matter how people spin it, Cooper won that fight fairly, Ali knows it too.

[stanislove12]

Originally Posted by On The Money

If he landed the right hand that put down Thompson last night... Would he get a chance to land it is the question. I don't know and nobody ever will. Ali is the GOAT and Wlad a humble ATG.

i agree with this

[daprofessor]

ali > wlad + vitali

[bremen]

Originally Posted by C.J.

I was at that fight . True Clay was out. What happened with Angelo was superb corner work. He'd noticed a tear in Ali's glove earlier & when he realised they needed more time he put his finger in it made it worse & called the ref. By the time they had it sorted out, mayber2 mins, Clays head was clear and he proceeded to slash Henry's face to ribbons.
Did Angelo cheat??? I prefer to call it superb corner work he saved Clay from probable defeat

Right, but if it was Wlad in place of Cooper no amount of smelling salts would help.