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Old 07-08-2012, 08:03 PM   #121
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Ali is a nightmare matchup for Wlad.

That jab,jab,grab bullshit won't work against Ali.

Wlad can't outsmart Ali.

Wlad can't outbox Ali.

Robot Wlad can't stop Ali.

Wlad can't outpoint Ali.

Ali will dominate Wlad, then play some golf after.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:06 PM   #122
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Why would a prime Ali rope a dope Wladimir? He wouldn't, he'd be using movement to offset Wladimir and then attack with blistering speed. Wladimir would be struggling to land.
Wlad would be like a deer stuck in the headlights too much speed, too much of everything really and can Wlad handle the mental attacks that Ali would be bringing each time they meet at the pressers?

I say Ali beats both Klitschkos rather easy
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:07 PM   #123
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He beat Michael ****ing Moorer with a Hail Mary punch after getting schooled for the entire fight. LHW Moorer that somehow held a belt in, as you say, one of the greatest era in HW history. Farcical. He got a gift against Schulz and beat no one else of note.
The 90's did give us ATG Lewis but otherwise failed to live up to its promise. Bowe had talent but was lazy and ducked Lewis shamelessly before being beaten into retirement by Golota.
Holyfield was a roided up CW and Tyson's career was a sham after his prison stint. Bruce Seldon was a champion in the 90's FFS.
Shake off that nostalgia high and maybe you will remember how the 90's were in reality. An entertaining era but hardly one of pugilistic excellence.
Slice the pie how you like it, the 90's were x2 better than 00's brah! Respect brah! Respect the 90's brah! Respect it brah! Why you disrespecting brah!? World heavyweights brah!!

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Seriously though, I know good and well you aren't trying to make a case for the Wlad by breaking down the other era's of boxing that are clearly better than the current one.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:09 PM   #124
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Ali got knocked out by LHW journeyman Henry Cooper and he and his team resorted to cheating to survive in that fight.
If this fight were to happen today Ali would need to show the ref that he is ok to continue, which he wouldn't be able to do, and the fight would be waved off.

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I was at that fight . True Clay was out. What happened with Angelo was superb corner work. He'd noticed a tear in Ali's glove earlier & when he realised they needed more time he put his finger in it made it worse & called the ref. By the time they had it sorted out, mayber2 mins, Clays head was clear and he proceeded to slash Henry's face to ribbons.
Did Angelo cheat??? I prefer to call it superb corner work he saved Clay from probable defeat
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:11 PM   #125
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Wlad is a nightmare matchup for Ali.

That rope a dope bullshit won't work against Wlad.

Ali can't outsmart Wlad.

Ali can't outbox Wlad.

Feather fisted Ali can't stop Wlad.

Ali can't outpoint Wlad.

Wlad would destroy Ali.
This is the dumbest post in the thread yet.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:13 PM   #126
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I truly cannot believe that knowledgeable boxing fans really believe that robots like Vitali & Wlad could ever bother Ali. A prime Ali could take BOTH Klits out at same time
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:25 PM   #127
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I was at that fight . True Clay was out. What happened with Angelo was superb corner work. He'd noticed a tear in Ali's glove earlier & when he realised they needed more time he put his finger in it made it worse & called the ref. By the time they had it sorted out, mayber2 mins, Clays head was clear and he proceeded to slash Henry's face to ribbons.
Did Angelo cheat??? I prefer to call it superb corner work he saved Clay from probable defeat
No existing film of the fight supports the idea that Ali had extra minutes in the fight because of gloves, he had an extra six seconds.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:29 PM   #128
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No existing film of the fight supports the idea that Ali had extra minutes in the fight because of gloves, he had an extra six seconds.
Dundee also used smelling salts to help revive Ali, another violation of the rules that should've resulted in a DQ. No matter how people spin it, Cooper won that fight fairly, Ali knows it too.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:35 PM   #129
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If he landed the right hand that put down Thompson last night... Would he get a chance to land it is the question. I don't know and nobody ever will. Ali is the GOAT and Wlad a humble ATG.
i agree with this
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:20 PM   #130
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ali > wlad + vitali
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:25 PM   #131
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I was at that fight . True Clay was out. What happened with Angelo was superb corner work. He'd noticed a tear in Ali's glove earlier & when he realised they needed more time he put his finger in it made it worse & called the ref. By the time they had it sorted out, mayber2 mins, Clays head was clear and he proceeded to slash Henry's face to ribbons.
Did Angelo cheat??? I prefer to call it superb corner work he saved Clay from probable defeat
Right, but if it was Wlad in place of Cooper no amount of smelling salts would help.
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:29 PM   #132
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Dundee also used smelling salts to help revive Ali, another violation of the rules that should've resulted in a DQ. No matter how people spin it, Cooper won that fight fairly, Ali knows it too.
Wow, you're a piece of shit.
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:58 PM   #133
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Every fighter was a come forward fighter against Prime Ali. Size won't help you against him. "Your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see." Prime Ali would exchange when he wanted to exchange. I like Wlad but the only chance he has against Prime Ali is a puncher's chance.
He's not that fast ffs. Tyson and Ali nuthuggers are the worst.
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:07 PM   #134
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I like the last gif where Ali makes dude punch himself. Classic.
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Old 07-09-2012, 06:21 AM   #135
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Going through the thread its so hard to tell what post is neutral and objective on this subject, so many different and contrasting opinions it doesn't help with a close poll trying to gauge if Ali could work his magic against Wlad.
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