Do you think there should be no 265 weight limit in the ufc?

[Big Red]

Originally Posted by Stoo

Yep, being slower with less cardio would make Big Foot a fucking beast...

Having to dehydrate 25 pounds of water weight the day before the fight does not help guys like Brock. Someone just a little bit bigger might not be able to make weight.

Silva might not want to add muscle or he might, but he can't even if he wanted to. Silva is not exactly a huge man, he is 6'4.

[Stoo]

So coming in as heavy as they want instead of training hard to be able to make the weight cut will help them fight better...

Have you considered a career in Coaching?

On that note, how does it hurt Brock?

And how would muscle help Big Foot?

[Big Red]

Originally Posted by Stoo

So coming in as heavy as they want instead of training hard to be able to make the weight cut will help them fight better...

All the smaller heavyweights come in as heavy as they want. Why can't the bigger heavyweights?

Have you considered a career in Coaching?

On that note, how does it hurt Brock?

Dehydrating 25 pounds the day before a fight is not optimal, for any athlete.

And how would muscle help Big Foot?

It might make him more exsplosive, I don't know if it would though. I don't understand the weight limit.

You say it keeps the heavyweights in shape, but many heavyweights could carry a lot of fat and be able to make 265.

[Stoo]

But they dont carry fat...because they are in shape...

[Big Red]

Originally Posted by Stoo

But they dont carry fat...because they are in shape...

http://www.fiveknuckles.com/assets/i...Roy-Nelson.jpg

[Stoo]

''They'' meaning more than one

And are you really using Roy as an example of how extra weight can help a fighter, because he's the poster boy for what Ive been saying all along...

[Lefthooktommy]

If a fighter can't make the 265 pound weight limit then he shouldn't be fighting period.

[Big Red]

Originally Posted by Stoo

''They'' meaning more than one

And are you really using Roy as an example of how extra weight can help a fighter, because he's the poster boy for what Ive been saying all along...

I don't agree with you and we are just going in circles now. I have said my points about why I think the weight limit should be taken away.

You seem to think that these big guys will faten up for more of a size advantage.I don't really think that works because unlike sumo wrestling they have to fight 25 min.

[Stoo]

You haven't made any points except they should if they want to

be we shall agree to disagree as Im a consummate gentleman as anyone will confirm

[Big Red]

Originally Posted by Stoo

You haven't made any points except they should if they want to

be we shall agree to disagree as Im a consummate gentleman as anyone will confirm

I have made points. I have exsplained that some guys are physically to big to make 265 and that some fighters are already draining themselfs to fight in the heaviest weight division. And having a weight limit where fighters can weigh close to 300 pounds is not going to keep some of these smaller heavyweights from getting fat if they want. The weight limit is pointless.

And I think having some sumo type fighters would be cool anyway. I will be offline for a while, thanks for the debate.

[achillesthegreat]

No

[Koa]

I'd like to see a 206-225

Then something like 226+ with no weight limit.

There are a lot of guys who can make 225, but that are just too small for the guys who are more naturally at around 240 or more.

Just my Observation.

[Big Red]

Originally Posted by Koa

I'd like to see a 206-225

Then something like 226+ with no weight limit.

There are a lot of guys who can make 225, but that are just too small for the guys who are more naturally at around 240 or more.

Just my Observation.

The only problem is you would have guys 260 pounds cutting down to 225 pounds. Would not leave much talent at above 225 imo.

[thewinfella]

Originally Posted by Big Red

I don't know why there is a weight limit to fight at heavyweight. Seems dumb that many fighters have to cut weight to fight at the top weight class.

I like the fact that 265 is the limit , it stops the farcical element of Heavyweight combat like we are seeing now in boxing , and actually makes for a better fight

And BTW , 265 is still pretty fuckin huge !!!!!

[thewinfella]

Originally Posted by Koa

I'd like to see a 206-225

Then something like 226+ with no weight limit.

There are a lot of guys who can make 225, but that are just too small for the guys who are more naturally at around 240 or more.

Just my Observation.

This is something I've thought all along , but the foundations are in and I'm not sure how this could be addressed

Guys like Couture and Noguerra , even Fedor in MMA terms are / were actually Cruiser weights , I'm sure Jon Jones will be leaving 205 in the next 2 years , and for what , to be faced with guys currenty a whole 65 lbs heavier than him (currently)