Just saw the odds for Martinez - Chavez Jr. - Page 3

JeanPaulValley · 07-10-2012, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by arsabs

jr. would beat the fag magnet to a pulp. he will be the favorite come fight night.

Dont be angry just because Sexy Sergio is gonna fuck that Boy up!

Indio-Bandido · 07-10-2012, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by exodus

And what level of competition has Chavez Jr really faced to test his, "heck of a chin"?

rubio can crack and chavez didnt respect his power at all. rubio against martinez would be a competitive fight. i rewatched martinez against pavlik the other day and i honestly dont see what all the fuss is about. martinez is not that good. chavez is much bigger and he's gonna be coming forward all night. martinez wont be able to get his punches off the way he'd like to. i can honestly see chavez winning this. martinez can win too, but a chavez victory wouldnt surprise me in the least.

JeanPaulValley · 07-10-2012, 11:52 PM

Ah Middleweight. Such a fun division! I am pumped for that fight.
Jr gonna get hit with a counter like Paul the Punisher?

MetalLicker · 07-11-2012, 12:20 AM

This fight could very well mirror Martinez's Margarito fight, except that Jr. is more skilled than Margarito.

Chavez is a pure pressure fighter who is one of the most relentless and vicious body punchers in boxing. He's built like a tank and can take a punch.

This fight is a great contrast of styles. Martinez, like many boxers, does well when someone fights at his pace like dzinziruk. When another fighters jacks up the pace, they start to show weaknesses. Or we can see Martinez outbox Jr. early and bank up the rounds and lose the last few.

It's a great match-up no matter how you look at it.

LT*3 · 07-11-2012, 01:29 AM

WAR Chavez!

6'4south · 07-11-2012, 02:56 AM

It makes sense to me that the odds are that close, and as many have already stated, if this fight happened a few years ago. The odds would be much higher in favor of Martinez. The odds are closer now because Chavez has looked better (albeit against subpar fighters), and Martinez has shown some vulnerabilities (even in victory).

Thatman · 07-11-2012, 03:00 AM

Put that money on Martinez now. Chavez is garbage in comparison to Martinez. Martinez by very easy knockout later.

Thatman · 07-11-2012, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MetalLicker

This fight could very well mirror Martinez's Margarito fight, except that Jr. is more skilled than Margarito.

Chavez is a pure pressure fighter who is one of the most relentless and vicious body punchers in boxing. He's built like a tank and can take a punch.

This fight is a great contrast of styles. Martinez, like many boxers, does well when someone fights at his pace like dzinziruk. When another fighters jacks up the pace, they start to show weaknesses. Or we can see Martinez outbox Jr. early and bank up the rounds and lose the last few.

It's a great match-up no matter how you look at it.

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug no.

bernie4366 · 07-11-2012, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hermit

Pavlik toyed with a better version of Rubio and made him quit on his stool.

That version of Pavlik would have murdered Sexio and put a beating on JCC too.

iceman71 · 07-11-2012, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyler-Durden

Why is he the favourite to beggin with ?

because he has the bigger wins in the higher profile fights
vegas doesnt deal in hype or message board popularity, they deal in stats and what you have accomplished, when it was accomplished and against who

irishny · 07-11-2012, 08:12 AM

Pick em fight.

JCC has come on leaps and bounds and hes a big strong middleweight, whereas Sergio can still fight at 154.

Gonna be interesting.

Glad to see a true super fight being made

Flexe · 07-11-2012, 08:22 AM

Chavez Jr should be the favorite.

That said Martinez wins via knockout.

Collie · 07-11-2012, 08:26 AM

Hard fight to call, could go either way. An awful lot will depend on whether JCC can walk down Martinez and take his shots.

Cuauhtemoc1520 · 07-11-2012, 08:39 AM

I think that a year ago I would have been shocked but after watching the fight with Andy Lee and hearing what Lee had to say, I think it is a tough fight for Martinez.

Size is going to play a huge part in this fight. I think the number one thing they need to work on with Chavez is keeping that head moving non stop throughout the fight. Working his way inside with that movement like his father used to do and banging away inside and staying there.

If he can do that, I think he will be fine. Martinez is a hard puncher but he knocks dudes out with shots they don't see. I don't see Chavez opening himself up wildly to be hit with a shot like that, he will be hit but more from just constant pressure he will be putting on Martinez and getting hit coming in which are shots he will be expecting.

Sug3 · 07-11-2012, 08:41 AM

Chavez won't win a round and he will get embarrassed,chavez struggles and goes to distance with guys like zbik and rubio,but all of a sudden he ko's martinez now,because of the andy lee fight.Martinez will land the harder blows and chavez will take like 8 punches just to land 1,also martinez will use angles and counter-punching that will frustrate chavez.This isn't the 80's and he's not his father,we will see when jr gets a broken nose or broken jaw and see if he keeps coming forward then,because martinez will land at will.

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JeanPaulValley LUMMOX LEWIS=BUM ESB Addict Join Date: May 2012 Location: Crescent Heights,Hell Posts: 2,470 vCash: 438	Re: Just saw the odds for Martinez - Chavez Jr. Ah Middleweight. Such a fun division! I am pumped for that fight. Jr gonna get hit with a counter like Paul the Punisher?
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07-11-2012, 12:20 AM	#34
MetalLicker Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,539 vCash: 500	Re: Just saw the odds for Martinez - Chavez Jr. This fight could very well mirror Martinez's Margarito fight, except that Jr. is more skilled than Margarito. Chavez is a pure pressure fighter who is one of the most relentless and vicious body punchers in boxing. He's built like a tank and can take a punch. This fight is a great contrast of styles. Martinez, like many boxers, does well when someone fights at his pace like dzinziruk. When another fighters jacks up the pace, they start to show weaknesses. Or we can see Martinez outbox Jr. early and bank up the rounds and lose the last few. It's a great match-up no matter how you look at it.
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07-11-2012, 01:29 AM	#35
LT3 Journeyman ESB Jr Member* Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: The Hood Posts: 177 vCash: 75	Re: Just saw the odds for Martinez - Chavez Jr. WAR Chavez!
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07-11-2012, 02:56 AM	#36
6'4south Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 354 vCash: 500	Re: Just saw the odds for Martinez - Chavez Jr. It makes sense to me that the odds are that close, and as many have already stated, if this fight happened a few years ago. The odds would be much higher in favor of Martinez. The odds are closer now because Chavez has looked better (albeit against subpar fighters), and Martinez has shown some vulnerabilities (even in victory).
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07-11-2012, 03:00 AM	#37
Thatman No respond troll pactards ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,989 vCash: 500	Re: Just saw the odds for Martinez - Chavez Jr. Put that money on Martinez now. Chavez is garbage in comparison to Martinez. Martinez by very easy knockout later.
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07-11-2012, 08:12 AM	#41
irishny Champion East Side Guru Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 7,374 vCash: 75	Re: Just saw the odds for Martinez - Chavez Jr. Pick em fight. JCC has come on leaps and bounds and hes a big strong middleweight, whereas Sergio can still fight at 154. Gonna be interesting. Glad to see a true super fight being made
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07-11-2012, 08:22 AM	#42
Flexe Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,745 vCash: 350	Re: Just saw the odds for Martinez - Chavez Jr. Chavez Jr should be the favorite. That said Martinez wins via knockout.
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07-11-2012, 08:26 AM	#43
Collie Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,361 vCash: 4500	Re: Just saw the odds for Martinez - Chavez Jr. Hard fight to call, could go either way. An awful lot will depend on whether JCC can walk down Martinez and take his shots.
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07-11-2012, 08:39 AM	#44
Cuauhtemoc1520 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,518 vCash: 500	Re: Just saw the odds for Martinez - Chavez Jr. I think that a year ago I would have been shocked but after watching the fight with Andy Lee and hearing what Lee had to say, I think it is a tough fight for Martinez. Size is going to play a huge part in this fight. I think the number one thing they need to work on with Chavez is keeping that head moving non stop throughout the fight. Working his way inside with that movement like his father used to do and banging away inside and staying there. If he can do that, I think he will be fine. Martinez is a hard puncher but he knocks dudes out with shots they don't see. I don't see Chavez opening himself up wildly to be hit with a shot like that, he will be hit but more from just constant pressure he will be putting on Martinez and getting hit coming in which are shots he will be expecting.
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07-11-2012, 08:41 AM	#45
Sug3 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,342 vCash: 1000	Re: Just saw the odds for Martinez - Chavez Jr. Chavez won't win a round and he will get embarrassed,chavez struggles and goes to distance with guys like zbik and rubio,but all of a sudden he ko's martinez now,because of the andy lee fight.Martinez will land the harder blows and chavez will take like 8 punches just to land 1,also martinez will use angles and counter-punching that will frustrate chavez.This isn't the 80's and he's not his father,we will see when jr gets a broken nose or broken jaw and see if he keeps coming forward then,because martinez will land at will.
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