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Old 07-11-2012, 01:21 PM   #2206
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Why refuse vada testing PAC?
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:23 PM   #2207
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Absolutely no way testing should have been an issue..

It shouldnt have been brought up

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It shouldnt have been refused either if you ask me

Both shot themselves in the foot!
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:25 PM   #2208
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Absolutely no way testing should have been an issue..

It shouldnt have been brought up

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It shouldnt have been refused either if you ask me

Both shot themselves in the foot!
if Pac had just flat out said "No, I don't want to do extra tests because it's not required" It would have been OK imo, but the lies and excuses afterwards....

and then now all of a sudden they are willing?! So all of the stuff in the past really was just lies and excuses then?
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:26 PM   #2209
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And the fact that it carries weight tells you all you need to know regardless of who points fingers. Team Pac did themselves the biggest disservice, not anyone else.
It carries weight to you. Sorry, I live in the real world. Where Pac's rept hasn't taken the hit you think it has, because most side with him on this issue.

As it stands, Pac's taken the same test required of 99.99% of all boxer from the beginning. Same one Hearns, Duran, DLH, SRL, Tsyon, FLOYD (for his first 41 fights), and about anyone else who mattered in the sport.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:28 PM   #2210
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if Pac had just flat out said "No, I don't want to do extra tests because it's not required" It would have been OK imo, but the lies and excuses afterwards....

and then now all of a sudden they are willing?! So all of the stuff in the past really was just lies and excuses then?
Thats what he did, he said no we will do what the commissions require the excuses of being afraid of needles his own blood ect... Came after that when questioned about the testing.

But they simply stated we are not going to do anything that the commission does not require.

My question for you is, since he has agreed finally to do the testing do you not see a pattern here with Floyd? I mean since Manny agreed what did Floyd do? he offered Manny a shitty ass 40 million No PPV knowing damn well Floyd would be told to **** himself so you tell me who doesnt want the fight...... I think both guys are honestly ducking each other
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:28 PM   #2211
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It carries weight to you. Sorry, I live in the real world. Where Pac's rept hasn't taken the hit you think it has, because most side with him on this issue.

As it stands, Pac's taken the same test required of 99.99% of all boxer from the beginning. Same one Hearns, Duran, DLH, SRL, Tsyon, FLOYD (for his first 41 fights), and about anyone else who mattered in the sport.
Look at the poll, you're in the minority on this one. The real world really has no idea about boxing or it's intangibles.

And at pac's rep hasn't taken a hit, iole or hauser did an article prior to the Bradley bout about Bradley not being afraid of Pac and the possibility that he might be on roids. Yeah that's a really good look for pacquiao.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:30 PM   #2212
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Thats what he did, he said no we will do what the commissions require the excuses of being afraid of needles his own blood ect... Came after that when questioned about the testing.

But they simply stated we are not going to do anything that the commission does not require.

My question for you is, since he has agreed finally to do the testing do you not see a pattern here with Floyd? I mean since Manny agreed what did Floyd do? he offered Manny a shitty ass 40 million No PPV knowing damn well Floyd would be told to **** himself so you tell me who doesnt want the fight...... I think both guys are honestly ducking each other
You're lying, They said the nurses will bruise pac's arm and that blood weakens him and that Floyd is bigger yada yada. The "Commissions don't require it" was lumped in there with the other excuses.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:32 PM   #2213
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It carries weight to you. Sorry, I live in the real world. Where Pac's rept hasn't taken the hit you think it has, because most side with him on this issue.

As it stands, Pac's taken the same test required of 99.99% of all boxer from the beginning. Same one Hearns, Duran, DLH, SRL, Tsyon, FLOYD (for his first 41 fights), and about anyone else who mattered in the sport.

But he don't wanna take the test that catches 99.9% of the cheats,$40,000,,000 isn't enough for him to say "you know what,I'm gonna take the test,and get a payday and beat his ass" but no Manny still has excuses not to fight..

The longer time goes by,people are starting to scratch their heads.. Pac will be in the same breath as Bonds,Clemens etc.. when all is said and done.. People want the sport cleaned up and one of the top guys wants nothing to do with a REAL test..
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:33 PM   #2214
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You're lying, They said the nurses will bruise pac's arm and that blood weakens him and that Floyd is bigger yada yada. The "Commissions don't require it" was lumped in there with the other excuses.
These people live in an alternate reality where down is up and up is down. Where refusing to test is accepting to test and a $6 million purse guarantee is better than a $40 million dollar one.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:33 PM   #2215
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But he don't wanna take the test that catches 99.9% of the cheats,$40,000,,000 isn't enough for him to say "you know what,I'm gonna take the test,and get a payday and beat his ass" but no Manny still has excuses not to fight..

The longer time goes by,people are starting to scratch their heads.. Pac will be in the same breath as Bonds,Clemens etc.. when all is said and done.. People want the sport cleaned up and one of the top guys wants nothing to do with a REAL test..


Hearns/Ray Leonard, Tyson/Holyfield all brought random testing to the negotiation table and they didn't sue one another or any of that crap, they fought and proved who was the best
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:34 PM   #2216
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These people live in an alternate reality where down is up and up is down. Where refusing to test is accepting to test and a $6 million purse guarantee is better than a $40 million dollar one.
Because Pac fights for honour and not money haven't you heard? It doesn't matter that he almost cancelled the Hatton bout because he wouldn't give him 50/50 and made Hatton take 47/53
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:40 PM   #2217
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Look at the poll, you're in the minority on this one. The real world really has no idea about boxing or it's intangibles.

And at pac's rep hasn't taken a hit, iole or hauser did an article prior to the Bradley bout about Bradley not being afraid of Pac and the possibility that he might be on roids. Yeah that's a really good look for pacquiao.
ESB poll doesn't reflect anything but the opinions of mostly idiots who post. Like I said, I live in the real world.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:41 PM   #2218
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ESB poll doesn't reflect anything but the opinions of mostly idiots who post. Like I said, I live in the real world.
And the real world has articles about pac and steroids whether you try to ignore it or not.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:42 PM   #2219
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But he don't wanna take the test that catches 99.9% of the cheats,$40,000,,000 isn't enough for him to say "you know what,I'm gonna take the test,and get a payday and beat his ass" but no Manny still has excuses not to fight..

The longer time goes by,people are starting to scratch their heads.. Pac will be in the same breath as Bonds,Clemens etc.. when all is said and done.. People want the sport cleaned up and one of the top guys wants nothing to do with a REAL test..
No, hate to tell you this, but even if Pac never takes the tests by USADA or VADA, he won't be looked at like Bond or Clemens becausre those two had serious ties.

The current testing isn't perfect, I'm the first to admit that. But it HAS caught steroid cheats in the past.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:42 PM   #2220
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And the real world has articles about pac and steroids whether you try to ignore it or not.

I'm not ignoring. You're implying those articles are doing serious damage to his rep. They haven't.
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