Did Sonnen lost gas and can't follow up or Silva suddenly had TDD?

[The Spider]

Originally Posted by CarlesX7

Right, but I suspect that Silva won't stay around for long to find out.

If Spider does decide to retire he goes out at the very top of the heap

[Matt Ldn]

Originally Posted by CarlesX7

He knocked down your precious champion in the first fight

Not exactly the full picture, he wasn't properly hurt IMO and it was more suprprise at sonnen striking and his injury.

Originally Posted by Vic-JofreBRASIL

He was not stunned or nothing......those "knock downs" were not exactly a product of Sonnen´s power or something like that....

Chael has no power, none its irrefutable

Originally Posted by SugarShane_24

The same reason why I'd like to see Munoz get a title shot.

I know Spider would smash him to bits, but if Munoz can get it to the ground and perform his GnP, it's interesting to see.

The thing is Silva is so good at not taking damage on the ground, be interesting though definitely. If Sonnen had power its quite likely that he would've stopped Silva.

[Kittikasem]

Originally Posted by The Spider

Happens to the best of them. Ask Roy Jones.

Or Chuck Liddell.

[Kittikasem]

Originally Posted by CarlesX7

His punch resistance doesn't come into play as long as he's able to avoid punches the way he does, when he's standing up. If Sonnen packed a serious punch, he would probably have been TKO'd in the first fight.

Calm down friend, that's way overstating things. Landing one or two clean punches is not tantamount to TKO'ing someone, unless you're talking about shot Wandy Silva and not unshot Andy Silva. I've seen Silva take one or two punches from more powerful guys than Sonnen and go nowhere. I don't think there's any fighter at mw that could finish Silva on the feet just now. Belfort and Henderson both failed, and you're never going to find better punchers than those two. I'm sure Hendo landed on AS as well.

[196osh]

Originally Posted by Kittikasem

Calm down friend, that's way overstating things. Landing one or two clean punches is not tantamount to TKO'ing someone, unless you're talking about shot Wandy Silva and not unshot Andy Silva. I've seen Silva take one or two punches from more powerful guys than Sonnen and go nowhere. I don't think there's any fighter at mw that could finish Silva on the feet just now. Belfort and Henderson both failed, and you're never going to find better punchers than those two. I'm sure Hendo landed on AS as well.

Ground and pound not count?

[benebox]

Didn't he have to lose 20 pounds the day before the weight in? Maybe he was weight drained, he also looked tired and slow in the Bisping fight. Its possible he was missing an extra 'something' or maybe it was that he was hurt from a punch Silva landed. I personally think he should go try his luck at a Light heavy weight. He did call out Machida

[benebox]

Originally Posted by Kittikasem

Calm down friend, that's way overstating things. Landing one or two clean punches is not tantamount to TKO'ing someone, unless you're talking about shot Wandy Silva and not unshot Andy Silva. I've seen Silva take one or two punches from more powerful guys than Sonnen and go nowhere. I don't think there's any fighter at mw that could finish Silva on the feet just now. Belfort and Henderson both failed, and you're never going to find better punchers than those two. I'm sure Hendo landed on AS as well.

Silva has an iron chin. I remember someone posting a video showing some of the shots landed on him and Silva acting like nothing happened.

[The Spider]

Originally Posted by benebox

Didn't he have to lose 20 pounds the day before the weight in? Maybe he was weight drained, he also looked tired and slow in the Bisping fight. Its possible he was missing an extra 'something' or maybe it was that he was hurt from a punch Silva landed. I personally think he should go try his luck at a Light heavy weight. He did call out Machida

The guy assisting Sonnen with his weight loss was gloating about what an expert he was and how strong and unaffected Sonnen would be

[Matt Ldn]

Yeah at his age and after all the Test useage he should move up to lightheavy if he wants to continue fighting where he will get fucked up I'm sure.

[Kittikasem]

Originally Posted by 196osh

Ground and pound not count?

Hendo landed shots on AS via GnP in their fight, and achieved nothing. Hendo shaking your hand at a Fans Expo probably causes more damage than Sonnen torquing his full body into a hammerfist to your orbital bone.

Sonnen landed few significant punches, it was all tippy-tappy bullshit. Even if he carried more power, I don't think his GnP was accurate enough nor performed with sufficient leverage to finish someone as tough as Anderson.

[Koa]

Originally Posted by CarlesX7

He knocked down your precious champion in the first fight

A good indicator of a guys power is his opponents face, body, legs after the fight.

Anderson looked gassed after their first fight, he ate a LOT of punches, but his face wasn't swollen. If I remember right, Chaels was that fight.

[ashl3y72]

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[Haggis McJackass]

Originally Posted by SugarShane_24

Honestly, I really thought Sonned cracked Silva clean in the 1st fight and sent him stumbling.

That's because he did.

[Haggis McJackass]

Originally Posted by benebox

Didn't he have to lose 20 pounds the day before the weight in? Maybe he was weight drained, he also looked tired and slow in the Bisping fight.

I was not convinced at all by his guy's theory about cutting 20 pounds on the last day and it's nothing. And then at the weigh-ins Sonnen looked like he was drained as fuck and knew it.

[196osh]

Originally Posted by Kittikasem

Hendo landed shots on AS via GnP in their fight, and achieved nothing. Hendo shaking your hand at a Fans Expo probably causes more damage than Sonnen torquing his full body into a hammerfist to your orbital bone.

Sonnen landed few significant punches, it was all tippy-tappy bullshit. Even if he carried more power, I don't think his GnP was accurate enough nor performed with sufficient leverage to finish someone as tough as Anderson.

This is what he said

If Sonnen packed a serious punch, he would probably have been TKO'd in the first fight.

You think if Hendo landed all that GnP vs Anderson that Anderson would have made it out? Really? No chance.