How would the best version of Mark Kerr fare in the current UFC HW division ?

[scurlaruntings]

Originally Posted by kel

oh no it's another instalement of the STOO and Scurla love in..... brace yourself boys

[scurlaruntings]

Originally Posted by Stoo

Ohhh nooo it's another post from kel that has nothing to do with the sport...

Ignore as usual Gentlemen

He's just mad his lost his sparring partner. Still Smeagol does what he does best. Troll.

[kel]

Originally Posted by Stoo

Ohhh nooo it's another post from kel that has nothing to do with the sport...

Ignore as usual Gentlemen

Bit rich coming from you with your smartarse one liners and constant use of songs on youtube to be funny

[Stoo]

True, but see above for further details

Email The Beaver if ya lonely pal, you can go throw darts at a pic of Nelson Mandela or whatever you intellectual types love to do

[scurlaruntings]

Originally Posted by Stoo

True, but see above for further details

Email The Beaver if ya lonely pal, you can go throw darts at a pic of Nelson Mandela or whatever you intellectual types love to do

[kel]

Originally Posted by Stoo

True, but see above for further details

Email The Beaver if ya lonely pal, you can go throw darts at a pic of Nelson Mandela or whatever you intellectual types love to do

Arrrh that's my man, back to what he does best minus the youtube clip

[kel]

Been doing my best with Mandela and the dart board........ silly old fucker won't drop off

I hear he just turned 93yrs

[rusty nails]

Originally Posted by scurlaruntings

What choo talking bout Willis? You seen any of his ADCC matches? Dude was a STUD. Mark was easily one of the best submission grapplers iv ever seen in MMA.

im wondering the same thing about you?
what are you talking about scurla? he was successful at adcc because of his strength, wrestling and use of the point system. not because of his astonishing submission abilities. mark is tremendous positionally but offensively hes absolutely useless. watch the fight with sperry. mark gets the takedown then spends the whole match stalling, fighting off submission attempts and just generally being terrified to advance.
or watch the barnett fight where he goes from mount to standing because he hasnt got a fucking clue what to do or how to finish.

[Stoo]

I agree with that Rusty, dont think he was fighting off multiple sub attempts v Sperry though, but havent seen that for a while so I may be wrong. And the fact that he controlled the match and did not get tapped against a guy like Mario shows he could hang with anyone in today's MMA division on the mat, barring Werdum imo

I think when gnp is your bread and butter positioning is all important. Mark showed enough nous in ADCC to not get tapped repeatedly like a Coleman or Randleman, and showed ability to not just get stuck and neutralise in someones guard. He did try to pass, and did tremendous damage in half guard, and it's advancing to side control from there where he won most on his fights

[rusty nails]

Originally Posted by Stoo

I agree with that Rusty, dont think he was fighting off multiple sub attempts v Sperry though, but havent seen that for a while so I may be wrong. And the fact that he controlled the match and did not get tapped against a guy like Mario shows he could hang with anyone in today's MMA division on the mat, barring Werdum imo

I think when gnp is your bread and butter positioning is all important. Mark showed enough nous in ADCC to not get tapped repeatedly like a Coleman or Randleman, and showed ability to not just get stuck and neutralise in someones guard. He did try to pass, and did tremendous damage in half guard, and it's advancing to side control from there where he won most on his fights

im not trying to give kerr a hard time. but my point is if you stripped 40 pounds of muscle off him he would be lucky to even find the podium at the ADCC much less be one of the best submission grapplers ever seen.

[Stoo]

Probably true, but I dont think Kerr was as big in 99/2000 as he got when he started NHB/MMA full time, looks atleast 10/15 lbs lighter. Be interested to see his weight back then, he was 240 in PRIDE iirc