Ingemar Johansson was not knocked out cold by Brian London

[Dr Z]

Originally Posted by Senya13

Btw, here's what the Ring magazine printed in April 1984.

Top 10 Glass Jaws of All-Time
1. Floyd Patterson
2. Bob Satterfield
3. Ruby Goldstein
4. Ingemar Johansson
5. Tippy Larkin
6. "Phainting" Phill Scott
7. John Tate
8. Joey DeJohn
9. Ken Norton
10. Primo Carnera

Never saw this one before. Good find.

[Senya13]

They seemed to have fun back then with such ratings (although their readers diidn't think so, in the feedback column), this one, the worst champions of all times, etc.

[Luigi1985]

Originally Posted by Senya13

Btw, here's what the Ring magazine printed in April 1984.

Top 10 Glass Jaws of All-Time
1. Floyd Patterson
2. Bob Satterfield
3. Ruby Goldstein
4. Ingemar Johansson
5. Tippy Larkin
6. "Phainting" Phill Scott
7. John Tate
8. Joey DeJohn
9. Ken Norton
10. Primo Carnera

What a shitty list, now some of you posters here should know gradually why I don´t respect the "The Ring Magazine", zero knowledge and totally biased...

[Senya13]

I could possibly scan the whole article, but that won't change nobody's opinion, so I won't even bother.

[Dr Z]

Originally Posted by Senya13

I could possibly scan the whole article, but that won't change nobody's opinion, so I won't even bother.

It could change opinions. The more data and information you have, the better an opinion can be.

[Senya13]

To say the truth, I think those 'ratings' are silly anyway. Why spread silly knowledge like that. There are more interesting things in the Ring. Like we could have posted here monthly ratings from the issues we have. I have about a hundred Ring magazines myself, half of them from 1940-1960's and the other half 1981-1991, and I wanted to scan their rating for myself (so I don't have to browse through the magazines every time), anyway.

[OLD FOGEY]

Originally Posted by Senya13

Btw, here's what the Ring magazine printed in April 1984.

Top 10 Glass Jaws of All-Time
1. Floyd Patterson
2. Bob Satterfield
3. Ruby Goldstein
4. Ingemar Johansson
5. Tippy Larkin
6. "Phainting" Phill Scott
7. John Tate
8. Joey DeJohn
9. Ken Norton
10. Primo Carnera

Johansson was only knocked out by one man, a heavyweight champion,
in his career. This seems a harsh rating. Carnera went a long way and
a lot of fights before he was knocked out at all. Also a harsh rating.
Patterson was only knocked out by heavyweight champions.

[DocDevil]

Truly enjoyed the Ingo report,you guys amaze me with your research capabilities.I had always heard Ingo was counted out.Have a lotta respect for what Ingo accomplished,not my top twenty guy,but enjoy reading about him.I wish the oldest surviving heavyweight champion was in better health.

[Marciano Frazier]

I think Byrd is at least as good a win as Machen, although Johansson beat Machen worse than Ibeabuchi beat Byrd.

I would personally rank Machen ahead of Byrd, but I can see where it's debatable.

Patterson is also a better win than Tua, but again, in the end, Johansson lost the series with Patterson.

Yes, but Ibeabuchi arguably lost to Tua in his win, and didn't have any rematches to lose.

I read on the general forum a year ago that Ibeabuchi had some struggles with Marion Wilson, the indestructible journeyman. I don't know how much merit there is to that claim as i've never seen the fight, but it certainly doesn't make Ibeabuchi's case stronger.

Well, Wilson had just knocked out a 17-2 opponent in one round and then held Orlin Norris to a split decision at the time. Looking at his last few fights, he was giving a lot of respectable gatekeeper-types tough times and even occasionally beating them, so a prospect struggling with him might not be a total black mark.

[Marciano Frazier]

Originally Posted by OLD FOGEY

Johansson was only knocked out by one man, a heavyweight champion,
in his career. This seems a harsh rating. Carnera went a long way and
a lot of fights before he was knocked out at all. Also a harsh rating.
Patterson was only knocked out by heavyweight champions.

That whole list seems rather poorly done- I would've thought it was an ESPN list if I didn't know it was from the RING. It has that quality of being made up almost entirely of the guys who would first pop into you head and being badly weighted towards heavyweights, much like the ESPN lists that are supposed to be pound-for-pound but always have four of the top five be heavyweights, usually with Sugar Ray Robinson mixed in, and then add a bunch of undeserving heavyweights down the lower half(Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield in the top 20 pound-for-pound of all time?!?).