Naz/Hatton

Broony · 07-21-2012, 05:28 PM

Who was better? They were both great fighters that seemed to fall in the gap between being great fighters and being true greats. They both beat many good fighters but fell short against the true top level opponents, many similarities in their careers.

Bronxbull666 · 07-21-2012, 05:31 PM

Difficult choice. My heart says Ricky and my head Naz.

Broony · 07-21-2012, 05:45 PM

Yeah same, finding it difficult to decide. Would like to say Hatton, think he made more of what he had than Naz and the Ingle situation really put me off him

flatulent_bob · 07-21-2012, 05:53 PM

Natural Talent against determination and pure strength of will.

On Professional attitude it's Ricky on what should have been its Naz.

Broony · 07-21-2012, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by flatulent_bob

Natural Talent against determination and pute strength of will.

On Professional attitude it's Ricky on what should have been its Naz.

Again I agree, gotta respect Hatton and be frustrated with Naz.

SouthpawSlayer · 07-21-2012, 06:21 PM

naz all the way, had talent coming out of his ears so thats a shit load of talent

hatton was far inferior

trotter · 07-21-2012, 06:27 PM

Naz on talent and on cv

mani0 · 07-21-2012, 06:30 PM

Naz.

slim · 07-21-2012, 06:31 PM

Naz.

Pecsaetan · 07-21-2012, 06:46 PM

Naz.

Primadonna Kool · 07-21-2012, 07:36 PM

Prince Naseem Hamed...

Great Actors have it, Great Leaders have it, Great Music Artist have it, whatever it is they have? Prince Naseem Had it.

Genius.......a Genius.

[ame]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0wSvQY6Cl44[/ame]

But I also think Ricky Hatton was a genius and had that star quality! There aare allot of good fighters today in boxing, butbnotbmany fighters with that star quality.....that Wow factor.

Ricky Hatton and Prince Naseem Hamed both where superstars larger than life, and there fights brought that WOW factor.

slip&counter · 07-21-2012, 07:43 PM

I never got the Naseem being a 'underachiever' train of thought. He did all he could for what he had, imo and got out at the right time.

Primadonna Kool · 07-21-2012, 07:50 PM

The Prince will never die down!

There's stars, theres superstars, and then there was Prince Naseem Hamed.

[ame]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X6HBka9Mu98[/ame]

slip&counter · 07-21-2012, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by flatulent_bob

Natural Talent against determination and pure strength of will.

On Professional attitude it's Ricky on what should have been its Naz.

I disagree. I don't think Hamed lacked determination, focus or will. If anything it's Hatton who shortened his career and didn't get the best out of himself with lack of dedication and professionalism, with all the guinness carousing and whatnot. Talent can only take you so far when you have such glaring technical flaws and the Prince got pretty far with it. Hamed just reached a plateau and was always likely to be outboxed by any one of Barrera, Marquez, Morales, Mayweather etc.

Primadonna Kool · 07-21-2012, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by slip&counter

I disagree. I don't think Hamed lacked determination, focus or will. If anything it's Hatton who shortened his career and didn't get the best out of himself with lack of dedication and professionalism, with all the guinness carousing and whatnot. Talent can only take you so far when you have such glaring technical flaws and the Prince got pretty far with it. Hamed just reached a plateau and was always likely to be outboxed by any one of Barrera, Marquez, Morales, Mayweather etc.

It's a known fact that he didn't enjoy training. Barrera has been owned, Marquez, and Morales.

A big deal is made out of the Barrea fight, it was hardly a one sided beat down. And Hamed didn't even take Barrera seriously....

All geniuses have flaws!

Prince Naseem Hamed was a genius, Barrera was just a good fighter.

07-21-2012, 05:28 PM	#1
Broony Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 465 vCash: 500	Naz/Hatton Who was better? They were both great fighters that seemed to fall in the gap between being great fighters and being true greats. They both beat many good fighters but fell short against the true top level opponents, many similarities in their careers.
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07-21-2012, 05:31 PM	#2
Bronxbull666 The Beast From The East ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: In bed Posts: 3,169 vCash: 75	Re: Naz/Hatton Difficult choice. My heart says Ricky and my head Naz.
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07-21-2012, 05:45 PM	#3
Broony Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 465 vCash: 500	Re: Naz/Hatton Yeah same, finding it difficult to decide. Would like to say Hatton, think he made more of what he had than Naz and the Ingle situation really put me off him
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07-21-2012, 05:53 PM	#4
flatulent_bob Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 458 vCash: 500	Re: Naz/Hatton Natural Talent against determination and pure strength of will. On Professional attitude it's Ricky on what should have been its Naz. Last edited by flatulent_bob; 07-21-2012 at 06:05 PM.
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07-21-2012, 06:21 PM	#6
SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you East Side Guru Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gay St Pierre Posts: 9,125 vCash: 75	Re: Naz/Hatton naz all the way, had talent coming out of his ears so thats a shit load of talent hatton was far inferior
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07-21-2012, 06:27 PM	#7
trotter Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,688 vCash: 1000	Re: Naz/Hatton Naz on talent and on cv
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mani0 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,260 vCash: 1000	Re: Naz/Hatton Naz.
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07-21-2012, 06:31 PM	#9
slim Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 549 vCash: 748	Re: Naz/Hatton Naz.
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Pecsaetan It's egg in soup! ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,120 vCash: 204	Re: Naz/Hatton Naz.
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07-21-2012, 07:36 PM	#11
Primadonna Kool P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 16,540 vCash: 1000	Re: Naz/Hatton Prince Naseem Hamed... Great Actors have it, Great Leaders have it, Great Music Artist have it, whatever it is they have? Prince Naseem Had it. Genius.......a Genius. [ame]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0wSvQY6Cl44[/ame] But I also think Ricky Hatton was a genius and had that star quality! There aare allot of good fighters today in boxing, butbnotbmany fighters with that star quality.....that Wow factor. Ricky Hatton and Prince Naseem Hamed both where superstars larger than life, and there fights brought that WOW factor.
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07-21-2012, 07:43 PM	#12
slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: In that 3 feet of stew again... Posts: 16,799 vCash: 1000	Re: Naz/Hatton I never got the Naseem being a 'underachiever' train of thought. He did all he could for what he had, imo and got out at the right time.
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07-21-2012, 07:50 PM	#13
Primadonna Kool P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 16,540 vCash: 1000	Re: Naz/Hatton The Prince will never die down! There's stars, theres superstars, and then there was Prince Naseem Hamed. [ame]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X6HBka9Mu98[/ame]
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