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I think given Vitali handled Peter and Arreola (superior pressure fighters to Chisora) as effectively as he did it would be fair to assume he really was injured in the Chisora fight, or he has faded even more since his comeback a few years ago. I don't think it's fair to say Vitali doesn't like pressure. |
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Holyfield could beat Chisora tomorrow if they fought. People need to stop overating fighters because they have big mouths or spit in peoples faces. Chisora and Haye are both overated to hell.
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This is true. Not even good for british heavyweights.
Chisora would probably have lasted less than 1 round against a prime Frank Bruno, and Frank would been booed out of the ring for fighting such a bum. And Chisora is probably the best HW fighter Haye has beat, going by when he beat them. Haye would have been chased out of the ring by Bruno too. ..... and I don't think Bruno was even very good. |
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Haye is overated. I don't know that Chisora is overated. But then I would pick Chisora to beat Holyfield right now, so perhaps I overate him myself.
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The Holyfield who fought Sherman Williams and decrepit Brian Nielsen is finally proven completely unworthy of being considered even a fring contender. And he's been inactive for over a year. I really think we won't see him fight again, at last. Even the 44 year-old Holyfield of 2007 (v. Maddalone and Savarese and Ibragimov) might well beat Chisora though. |
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Chisora is of British and European title type calibre. I have no problems imagining him giving Pulev a difficult night. Holyfield was so good that it's fair to say that only a tiny handful of men in the history of all the sport were clearly better at doing boxing than he was in his prime (guys like Robinson and Leonard). So yeah, I could see a 40's Holyfield beating Chisora. But I think Chisora has the pressure and the chin to keep that fight competitive. I don't think he would be outclassed or anything.
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Ray Robinson was a boxer-puncher par excellence, and was usually the tall rangey guy too. IF Holyfield had stayed at cruiser we might have seen him develop a more Robinson-esque style. (That's not to say he shouldn't have been a bit smarter as a HW many times too) But, yeah, those men were better. More fights, better records too. |
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He belongs with the most skilled of all time. |
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