Bob Foster. In his prime at LHW...Who beats him?

TheSouthpaw · 07-25-2012, 10:49 PM

How many people believe Bob Foster is the greatest light heavyweight of all time?..How does he stack up against Roy Jones or a young Mike Spinks??..Who would have beaten him in that division in his prime?

PhillyPhan69 · 07-25-2012, 11:04 PM

Very good LHW, actually great....But IMHO not quite the greatest!

I do think he would beat RJJ and take him out in 8 (there was a thread on this about a month ago...search if interested).

I think Spinks would beat him, and likely stop him late.

I would pick: Tommy Loughran, Ezzard Charles, Howard Johnson, Archie Moore, Floyd Patterson, Gene Tunney to beat him just off of the top of my head.

I hope this didn't sound negative as I liked Foster alot, I just don't find him upper tier of the LHW division, perhaps the lower part of the top 10 for me.

salsanchezfan · 07-25-2012, 11:10 PM

I rate him very highly, but I never liked how he would often diminish his height and reach advantage by bending down and coming forward the way he did. That would cost him against better fighters.

Still think he beats Jones though.

DaveK · 07-25-2012, 11:14 PM

I'd say he ranks much higher in terms of head to head than he does achievements.

The consensus is that Charles is the greatest LHW ever.

H2H he belongs in the top 5-8. He's a monster. I think he could potentially beat anyone at the weight, but there's guys that are just as good and hold stylistic advantages.

TheSouthpaw · 07-25-2012, 11:19 PM

I agree with you...he would have beaten Jones...thankyou for the reply

TheSouthpaw · 07-25-2012, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by salsanchezfan

I rate him very highly, but I never liked how he would often diminish his height and reach advantage by bending down and coming forward the way he did. That would cost him against better fighters.

Still think he beats Jones though.

I agree with you..he did diminish his skills by not using his reach to his advantage like he should of....but when he stayed back moved and used that jab...He was tough to beat

TheSouthpaw · 07-25-2012, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyPhan69

Very good LHW, actually great....But IMHO not quite the greatest!

I do think he would beat RJJ and take him out in 8 (there was a thread on this about a month ago...search if interested).

I think Spinks would beat him, and likely stop him late.

I would pick: Tommy Loughran, Ezzard Charles, Howard Johnson, Archie Moore, Floyd Patterson, Gene Tunney to beat him just off of the top of my head.

I hope this didn't sound negative as I liked Foster alot, I just don't find him upper tier of the LHW division, perhaps the lower part of the top 10 for me.

Not negative at all....very good answer..thankyou

PhillyPhan69 · 07-25-2012, 11:25 PM

3 years ago ESB classic did a survey of the LHW division, and the results were:

1. 971 Ezzard Charles (30)
2. 652 Archie Moore (4)
3. 557 Gene Tunney (8 )
4. 452 Sam Langford (4)
5. 328 Michael Spinks (1)
6. 288 Bob Foster
7. 181 Harry Greb
8. 148 Billy Conn
9. 140 Tommy Loughran
10. 81 Bob Fitzsimmons
11. 79 Roy Jones Jr
12. 50 Harold Johnson
13. 15 Jimmy Slattery
14. 10 Saad Muhammad
15. 7 Victor Galindez
16. 6 Jack Dillon
17. 5 Jack O'Brian
17. 5 John Henry Lewis
19. 4 Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
19. 4 Dwight Qawi
21. 3 Jimmy Bivins
21. 3 Tommy Gibbons
21. 3 Maxie Rosenbloom
24. 1 Donny Lalonde
24. 1 George Carpentier
24. 1 Henry Maske

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LittleRed · 07-25-2012, 11:31 PM

Who voted for Donny Lalonde?

DaveK · 07-25-2012, 11:33 PM

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Who voted for Donny Lalonde?

His mom...

PhillyPhan69 · 07-25-2012, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleRed

Who voted for Donny Lalonde?

LOL, not sure and I don't feel like wading through all 15 pages or so to find out.

salsanchezfan · 07-25-2012, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleRed

Who voted for Donny Lalonde?

Frankenfrank, I'm sure.

MrBumboclart · 07-26-2012, 06:04 AM

He was a very good LHW and I think he deserves a spot in the top 10, if not the top 5 of all-time.

However I think Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore, Gene Tunney and probably Michael Spinks all beat him.

Another LHW who doesn't get the respect he deserves is John Henry Lewis, Archie Moore called him the best LHW of all time. He deserves a spot in the top 10 also.

red cobra · 07-26-2012, 10:36 AM

Foster would have pulverized Jones..more so than Tarver and Johnson did.

Vic-JofreBRASIL · 07-26-2012, 11:12 AM

Foster vs Spinks would be great....more competitive than Foster vs Jones, because I think Foster´s power combined with his size and jab would be all wrong to Roy Jones.....

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07-25-2012, 11:04 PM	#2
PhillyPhan69 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Salisbury, MD Posts: 3,712 vCash: 1000	Re: Bob Foster Very good LHW, actually great....But IMHO not quite the greatest! I do think he would beat RJJ and take him out in 8 (there was a thread on this about a month ago...search if interested). I think Spinks would beat him, and likely stop him late. I would pick: Tommy Loughran, Ezzard Charles, Howard Johnson, Archie Moore, Floyd Patterson, Gene Tunney to beat him just off of the top of my head. I hope this didn't sound negative as I liked Foster alot, I just don't find him upper tier of the LHW division, perhaps the lower part of the top 10 for me.
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salsanchezfan Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 6,895 vCash: 1000	Re: Bob Foster I rate him very highly, but I never liked how he would often diminish his height and reach advantage by bending down and coming forward the way he did. That would cost him against better fighters. Still think he beats Jones though.
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07-25-2012, 11:14 PM	#4
DaveK Vicious & Malicious ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,853 vCash: 1000	Re: Bob Foster I'd say he ranks much higher in terms of head to head than he does achievements. The consensus is that Charles is the greatest LHW ever. H2H he belongs in the top 5-8. He's a monster. I think he could potentially beat anyone at the weight, but there's guys that are just as good and hold stylistic advantages.
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07-25-2012, 11:19 PM	#5
TheSouthpaw Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: St. Louis Posts: 2,878 vCash: 500	Re: Bob Foster I agree with you...he would have beaten Jones...thankyou for the reply
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PhillyPhan69 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Salisbury, MD Posts: 3,712 vCash: 1000	Re: Bob Foster 3 years ago ESB classic did a survey of the LHW division, and the results were: 1. 971 Ezzard Charles (30) 2. 652 Archie Moore (4) 3. 557 Gene Tunney (8 ) 4. 452 Sam Langford (4) 5. 328 Michael Spinks (1) 6. 288 Bob Foster 7. 181 Harry Greb 8. 148 Billy Conn 9. 140 Tommy Loughran 10. 81 Bob Fitzsimmons 11. 79 Roy Jones Jr 12. 50 Harold Johnson 13. 15 Jimmy Slattery 14. 10 Saad Muhammad 15. 7 Victor Galindez 16. 6 Jack Dillon 17. 5 Jack O'Brian 17. 5 John Henry Lewis 19. 4 Eddie Mustafa Muhammad 19. 4 Dwight Qawi 21. 3 Jimmy Bivins 21. 3 Tommy Gibbons 21. 3 Maxie Rosenbloom 24. 1 Donny Lalonde 24. 1 George Carpentier 24. 1 Henry Maske Link to discussion: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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07-25-2012, 11:31 PM	#9
LittleRed Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Yoknapatawpha Posts: 2,615 vCash: 475	Re: Bob Foster Who voted for Donny Lalonde?
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07-26-2012, 06:04 AM	#13
MrBumboclart Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Birmingham Posts: 342 vCash: 500	Re: Bob Foster He was a very good LHW and I think he deserves a spot in the top 10, if not the top 5 of all-time. However I think Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore, Gene Tunney and probably Michael Spinks all beat him. Another LHW who doesn't get the respect he deserves is John Henry Lewis, Archie Moore called him the best LHW of all time. He deserves a spot in the top 10 also.
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07-26-2012, 10:36 AM	#14
red cobra P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Sea of Tranquility Posts: 22,218 vCash: 1000	Re: Bob Foster Foster would have pulverized Jones..more so than Tarver and Johnson did.
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Vic-JofreBRASIL Vic East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Santos Posts: 13,842 vCash: 1166	Re: Bob Foster Foster vs Spinks would be great....more competitive than Foster vs Jones, because I think Foster´s power combined with his size and jab would be all wrong to Roy Jones.....
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