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Old 07-26-2012, 09:03 PM   #16
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1. Defense- Ali
2. Countering- Tyson
3. Combinations- Louis
4. Chin- Chuvalo
Ali had a pretty limited defence, once he became slower he found that out.
Young Ali should have been better.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:13 PM   #17
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1) Defence - Tyson
2) Countering - Ali
3) Combinations - Louis
4) Chin - Chuvalo
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:19 PM   #18
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Defence:SNV
Countering:SNV
Combinations:SNV
Chin:SNV
^ This. Everything else is just conjecture.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:24 PM   #19
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Ali had a pretty limited defence, once he became slower he found that out.
Young Ali should have been better.
Every person I listed was in regards to what they were in their prime. A prime Ali, imo, had the best defense out of any heavyweight. Not so much because of his skill/defensive knowledge, but because of his sheer reflexes and instinct.

I agree, once his reflexes had slowed his defense severely suffered and he was not near being the heavyweight with the best defense.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:48 AM   #20
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Defense Jack Johnson (especially pound for pound)

Countering Holyfield

Combos Joe Louis or Tyson

Chin Oliver Mccall or Ali
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:55 AM   #21
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1. Defense Johnson
2. Countering Tunney
3. Combinations Louis
4. Chin Chuvalo
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:50 AM   #22
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Defense - Jack Johnson

Countering - Jersey Joe Walcott

Combinations - Joe Louis

Chin - Muhammad Ali
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:08 AM   #23
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Muhammad Ali took way too many shots to have had the best defence.
It was probably someone a bit less interesting who has the best defence.

Joe Louis probably the best counter-puncher. I like Walcott sometimes in that department too, and Holyfield.

Joe Louis had the best combinations.

Chin ? Possibly Max Baer.
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:35 AM   #24
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1. Prime Ali
2.Holyfield
3.Louis
4.Ali
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:56 AM   #25
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1. Defense
2. Countering
3. Combinations
4. Chin


Which HW wins in each of the above
1) Young
2) Quarry
3) Louis
4) Ali
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Old 07-27-2012, 05:01 AM   #26
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1. Defense
2. Countering
3. Combinations
4. Chin


Which HW wins in each of the above
McCall/Tua/Byrd
McCall/Tua/Holyfield/Sanders
Sanders
McCall


this is considering Toney as not a heavyweight or otherwise he may b my candidate in both defense and countering and even a top 5 candidate 4 both chin and combinations .
Toney is top notch in these 4 criteria , but not a real heavyweight .

Orlin Norris is another worthy mention as far as defense goes .
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Old 07-27-2012, 05:30 AM   #27
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Ali
Ali
Louis
Ali


Goodnight and, Good Luck.

Spot on
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