John Ruiz versus Jess Willard

[Manassa]

Originally Posted by SuzieQ49

Ruiz unanimous decision

You never disappoint me.

[Ramon Rojo]

Ruiz by UD or KO

[TartanSoldier]

Thank Goodness good ol' Stoney is around to make this interesting.

I've not even watched any Willard fights apart from the one he gets his head kicked in and a few clips against Johnson.

[Bummy Davis]

[quote=MrBumboclart;13449022]And the say boxing has evolved! The current champ is fighting the same style a dude did around 100 years ago.[/quote

Well it was effective vs Johnson but Willard suffered from what most of the champions did back then, inactivity ....Willard may have had more than Valuev and maybe not but he is very underrated because of his brutal loss to Dempsey

[Mendoza]

Ruiz wasn't an easy guy to catch due to his spoiling tactics. For his part, he could jab, clinch, and limit the action. I can't stand Ruiz, but he is good at a few things.

Willard was horrible on defense, and rather clumsy on offense. He was out boxed a few times, but guys who were not as good as Ruiz. Ruiz was not stopped often.

I see Ruiz taking a decision here, even though I wish Willard would land a KO blow.

[Mendoza]

Originally Posted by Bummy Davis

Yes, A LOT OF SIMILARITY, Willard was a Champion and I think he handles Ruiz in a UD win....Willard fights very close to Vitali

There are also a lot of differences. Vitlai moves around better, throws more punches, is more accurate, harder to hit because he has a defense ( Willard had next to none ).


Willard could be out boxed, and was. Vitlai never was behind on any score card after three rounds in all of his fights. HUGE differences here.

[PowerPuncher]

Ruiz probably spoils a UD win with the better quicker jab of the 2.

[he grant]

Originally Posted by Manassa

You never disappoint me.

It's fun seeing the high school mentality at work .. maybe we'll hear soon about how astonishing the 37 year old version of Joe Louis was ...

[Bummy Davis]

Originally Posted by Mendoza

There are also a lot of differences. Vitlai moves around better, throws more punches, is more accurate, harder to hit because he has a defense ( Willard had next to none ).


Willard could be out boxed, and was. Vitlai never was behind on any score card after three rounds in all of his fights. HUGE differences here.

I like Vitali, he is one of my favorites today but I see a lot of similarities in style. Vitali had a more extensive amateur career and has had a great run despite losing 4 prime years. I also do not think Willard was as bad as you say and may have been a stronger fighter today with modern training and know-how of the history's of heavyweight boxing. What did have behind him 15-20 years of glove fighting as a resource. The game was new.

[Seamus]

Originally Posted by Mendoza

There are also a lot of differences. Vitlai moves around better, throws more punches, is more accurate, harder to hit because he has a defense ( Willard had next to none ).


Willard could be out boxed, and was. Vitlai never was behind on any score card after three rounds in all of his fights. HUGE differences here.

And Tyrell Biggs was really similar stylistically to Muhammad Ali.

And that's where the comparisons stop.

[Vic-JofreBRASIL]

Ruiz.....UD, in a truly horrible fight....

[Arminius]

Willard easily.

[Mendoza]

Originally Posted by Seamus

And Tyrell Biggs was really similar stylistically to Muhammad Ali.

And that's where the comparisons stop.

You add much needed logic and humor to this forum. Correct you are.


What surprises me on this poll is many pick Willard via decision. If you pick Willard, I think him winning via KO is more likely. Simply stated Willard wasn't very skilled.