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Old 07-14-2012, 11:38 AM   #1
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Default Chang, Watanabe, Lacier, Roman

Just finished watching the Chang set I bought and wondered between the four above, who you all think is better or had a better career. I've been a big Watanabe and Lacier fan, who I have 8 fights of, and Chang really impressed me. I put Roman, because he beat Lacier and Watanabe and had a great career.

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Old 07-14-2012, 12:04 PM   #2
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Default Re: Chang, Watanabe, Lacier, Roman

Chang is the best - both H2H at his own weight and career-wise.

Watanabe was more talented than both Laciar and Roman but from what I've heard about him wasn't the most dedicated fighter.
Hence the short career.

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Old 07-14-2012, 12:14 PM   #3
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Default Re: Chang, Watanabe, Lacier, Roman

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Just finished watching the Chang set I bought and wondered between the four above, who you all think is better or had a better career. I've been a big Watanabe and Lacier fan, who I have 8 fights of, and Chang really impressed me. I put Roman, because he beat Lacier and Watanabe and had a great career.
what about Bebis Rojas ?

anyway , on blind , based purely on records which proved working 4 me :

tier #1 :
Santos Benigno Laciar , Bebis Rojas , Fidel Bassa , Sung-Kil Moon
, Jiro Watanbe
tier #2 :
Ray Medel , Jesus Rojas , Jose Ruiz
Julio Cesar Borboa , Robert Quiroga , Jung-Koo Chang , Nana Konadu ,
Gilberto Roman
tier #3 :
Hilario Zapata

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meaning that Roman was d worst of d 4 u mentioned
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Old 07-14-2012, 02:02 PM   #4
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Default Re: Chang, Watanabe, Lacier, Roman

Watanabe was unlucky not to get the decision against Roman.

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Old 07-14-2012, 02:02 PM   #5
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I like Watanabe.
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Old 07-14-2012, 02:51 PM   #6
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Default Re: Chang, Watanabe, Lacier, Roman

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Watanabe was unlucky not to get the decision against Roman.

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cool. I have the Watanabe set and it has 14 fights. a terrific southpaw
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Old 07-15-2012, 01:15 PM   #7
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Default Re: Chang, Watanabe, Lacier, Roman

Roman really gets underrated. The guy was a virtuoso, a predicessor to Marquez and Lopez and he had plenty of bad luck of his own.

I think he's roughly even with Chang, ahead of Lacier and Watanabe.
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:35 PM   #8
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Roman really gets underrated. The guy was a virtuoso, a predicessor to Marquez and Lopez and he had plenty of bad luck of his own.

I think he's roughly even with Chang, ahead of Lacier and Watanabe.
Roman was great I just watched his trio w/ Lacier and his win over Watanabe. Terrific fighter
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:49 PM   #9
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Roman was great I just watched his trio w/ Lacier and his win over Watanabe. Terrific fighter
I just watched Santos' fights vs. Herrerra and Mathebula. He really was a terrific fighter and I now have a hard time ranking these 4, but know Roman I have below Lacier. Probably I would have Lacier and Watanabe 1 & 2
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:36 PM   #10
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I think Chang is the clear number one of those four.

Second would be Watanabe.

Roman and Laciar are about even IMO.
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:07 AM   #11
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Roman and Laciar are about even IMO
Agree.

Although Laciar has a notable (a very close one though) win over Hilario "Little Whitaker" Zapata.

The tiebreaker?

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