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Old 07-27-2012, 02:48 AM   #46
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Im no expert on the history of the heavyweight division, so can anyone tell me where/if Foreman fits into the picture...?
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:14 PM   #47
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He'd get stopped before he really warmed up in my opinion..
IMO that the no 1 WORSE post ive seen here shocking

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Where's the come from?

When did Marciano ever face a heavyweight of Wlad's size and skill?



Who has wlad fought that had the heart,fury,determination,stamina,toughness,power of Rocky Marciano?



Remember no bad toe's gonna stop marciano


And u think wlad stops him before he gets warmed up.


Joe Frazier would also give wlad a good hiding
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Old 07-28-2012, 04:27 AM   #48
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He'd get stopped before he really warmed up in my opinion.
I don't discount the idea that Wlad might be too big for Marciano. It's a huge size advantage. I can easily see Wlad jabbing and then smothering when Marciano gets past the jab. Repeating this all the way to take a decision, a boring fight.

But I can't see Marciano being stopped early.
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Old 07-28-2012, 08:15 AM   #49
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IMO that the no 1 WORSE post ive seen here shocking






Who has wlad fought that had the heart,fury,determination,stamina,toughness,power of Rocky Marciano?



Remember no bad toe's gonna stop marciano


And u think wlad stops him before he gets warmed up.


Joe Frazier would also give wlad a good hiding
Frazier was explosive and bobbed and waved on his way forward whereas Rocky marched forward tucked into a crouch. Totally different methods of getting into punching range and Fraziers is more suited to beating Wlad. I think Frazier would butcher Wlad inside 6 rounds.
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Old 07-28-2012, 02:13 PM   #50
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Ali defeats everyone head to head and greatest achievements. Holmes is next. Marciano and Klitshckos bottom of both lists.


Holmes had a good run but if you look at who he fought and the manner of the wins, nothing jumps out. I admire him for going on past 50 although I suspect that was down to Don King raping his ass for cash.
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Old 07-28-2012, 08:16 PM   #51
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I have him top 5 as well but he's not the unbeatable super beast and sadly underappreciated champion some are still making him out to be.
I'd agree with this but it's circular. Holmes was underrated in his own time and immediately after. People now rate him well and it could look like he get overrated. It'll balance itself out within 10 years and he'll be cemented in most people's top ten and probably a consensus #7(ish).

Out of interest - a prime Foreman v any other heavy bar Louis, Ali and Lewis? I think George dominates. George gets underrated these days because of how far he fell after the Ali loss. Odd when you think he beat better opponents than Tyson and Mike's career fell off the map after a loss too. Yet Tyson is always in these lists and George rarely gets a look in. I'm a Tyson fan btw (who isnt!) just seems odd to me that George and Tyson are similar in many ways (not style obviously) but Foreman gets overlooked.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:52 PM   #52
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Who's the greatest CW since Holyfield would be a good question.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:56 PM   #53
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Who's the greatest CW since Holyfield would be a good question.
The man in your avi - would be a shame if his antics since he moved to HW took away from his CW accomplishments
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