The Lightweight Division and my top 10 list

[PhillyPhan69]

Thought I would shift my focus again away from the HW division and pay tribute to the great Lightweight division, champions and great contenders as well as discussing some of the better fights in this weight class.

My top 10 list:
01 Benny Leonard
02 Roberto Duran
03 Joe Gans
04 Henry Armstrong
05 Ike Williams
06 carlos Ortiz
07 Sweet Pea
08 Tony Canzoneri
09 Barney Ross
10 JCC

My favorites
01 Bobcat Montgomery
02 Alexis Arguello
03 Ismael Laguna
04 Boom Boom Mancini
05 Tony The Tiger Lopez
06 ken Buchanan
07 JCC
08 Ike Williams
09 Beau Jack
10 Tony Canzoneri

So how about you....who were the greatest? Who are your favorites? What are the best fights? Any links???

[Vic-JofreBRASIL]

1-Joe Gans
2-Benny Leonard
3-Roberto Duran/Ike Williams
5-Henry Armstrong
No order now
Carlos Ortiz
Pernell Whitaker
Lou Ambers
Barney Ross
Tony Canzoneri

My favorites are Gans, Leonard, Williams, Laguna, Beau Jack and Whitaker...

[jdempsey85]

Barney Ross what a man hollywood need to get their act together and make a biopic.

Duran will be talked of for thousands of years.

Ike williams awesome.Shame theres not a lot of footage

Who doesnt like alexis arguello

[turbotime]

Gawd I love the lightweights. Williams, Mosley, Jose Luis Castillo and Pea were my faves at the weight. Oscar too of course

1. Benny Leonard
2. Roberto Duran
3. Joe Gans
4. Henry Armstrong
5. Pernell Whitaker
6. Ike Williams
7. Carlos Ortiz
8. Tony Canzoneri
9. Barney Ross
10. JC Chavez

[turbotime]

It's a shame there aren't many fights with Joyce, Williams, Bobcat and Jack around. Fucking hell that's a piss off, especially when there is footage of fights 20 years before their time! And we get nothing

[TBooze]

10 Sammy Angott
9 Julio Cesar Chavez
8 Bob Montgomery
7 Ike Williams
6 Battling Nelson
5 Joe Gans
4 Pernell Whitaker
3 Henry Armstrong
2 Benny Leonard
1 Roberto Duran

Mentions: Jack McAuliffe, George Lavigne, Frank Erne, Tony Canzoneri, Barney Ross, Lou Ambers, Beau Jack, Jimmy Carter, Carlos Ortiz, Ken Buchanan, Esteban DeJesus, Guts Ishimatsu (Ishimatsu Suzuki), Alexis Arguello, Edwin Rosario, Jose Luis Ramirez, Hector Camacho Snr, Oscar de la Hoya, Shane Mosley, Steve Johnson, Jose Luis Castillo and Floyd Mayweather Jr

[frankenfrank]

in4m me if im wrong but didn't Canzoneri & McLarnin draw d color line ?

also , 2 avoid ranking d pro wrestling era along with d more documented and regulated era , i will not try 2 include them , nor armstrong , joyce , angott and a few of their successors because i and u just don't know how real their records really r .


however on blind based on paper outcomes it is :
1. Henry Armstrong
2. Willie Joyce
3. Sammy Angott
4. Roberto Duran
5. Barney Ross
6. Beau Jack
7. Ike Williams
8. Carlos Ortiz
9. Lew Jenkins
10. Edwin Viruet / Edwin Rosario / Jose Luis Ramirez / Lou Ambers / Ken Buchanan

what n old timer u can b when u ignore d fact that d sport back then was more corrupt than in d 1980s and on .

Y not ? ignorant can b popular sometimes .

[PhillyPhan69]

Oh my.....did we forget to take our medication again?

[PhillyPhan69]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_qVVXWqo5A&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLB42A662D7DD6E050[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta2ng8zxnm0&feature=autoplay&list=PLB42A662D7DD6E050&playnext=2[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JsC1tVHQAk&feature=autoplay&list=PLB42A662D7DD6E050&playnext=3[/ame]

[turbotime]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqzXSpTTeGc[/ame]

[PhillyPhan69]

A fun quick little forgotten fight....Choo Choo was never destined to be an ATG, but he was fun to watch!

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gohdlkrmDEk[/ame]

+ one of my favorite forgotten KO's

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E85Op-GICQY[/ame]

[WhyYouLittle]

Originally Posted by frankenfrank

in4m me if im wrong but didn't Canzoneri & McLarnin draw d color line ?

McLarnin won a controversial UD over Young Jack Thompson and Canzoneri beaten Kid Chocolate twice (once by a very close UD that might have gone either way, once by a KO in 2 or something). These are the ones I remember.

As for the list

01. Benny Leonard
02. Joe Gans
03. Henry Armstrong
04. Roberto Duran
05. Freddie Welsh
06. Tony Canzoneri
07. Ike Williams
08. Lou Ambers
09. Barney Ross
10. Battling Nelson
Just missing (in no particular order): Lew Tendler, Charley White, Willie Ritchie, Sammy Mandell, Benny Valger, Beau Jack, Esteban de Jesús, Carlos Ortiz, Old Bones Joe Brown, Pernell Whitaker.

Favs: Benny Leonard, Tony Canzoneri/Roberto Duran/Joe Gans, Ike Williams

[Robbi]

The lightweight division has superb depth of greatness and history. Usually the top three is.....Duran, Leonard and Gans, in whatever order you care to place them.

This division contains the two best pure boxers, defensive masters, the sport has ever seen. Pep and Whitaker.

[Senya13]

Duran probably doesn't belong in Top 10 resume-wise.

[LittleRed]

Originally Posted by Senya13

Duran probably doesn't belong in Top 10 resume-wise.

I guess that depends on what lightweight resume means. If you take him from his pro debut to the third Dejesus fight I couldn't leave him out. If you actually take his time at lightweight... Not unreasonable.