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Old 08-04-2012, 07:33 AM   #16
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Dempsey is just being a moron there.

Can't like a man who does that.
It's not particularly palatable, but Dempsey only knew one way.
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:34 AM   #17
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Dempsey is just being a moron there.

Can't like a man who does that.

What do you expect him to do ? It's a boxing ring. He's Jack ****ing Dempsey. Anyone who wants to spar Jack Dempsey may as well get knocked out, that's something to tell your grandchildren.
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:38 AM   #18
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Still, let's remember folks, this is but a sparring session.

Doesn't hold much value.
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:54 AM   #19
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Guy was a beast in sparring.
Larry Gains ,who was Dempsey' sparring partner for a while,said the relief on the faces of the partners he did not use that day "was something to see".
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Old 08-04-2012, 08:54 AM   #20
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Still, let's remember folks, this is but a sparring session.

Doesn't hold much value.
Agreed. Holds about as much value as Toxie Hall decking Rocky Marciano.
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Old 08-04-2012, 08:55 AM   #21
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Dempsey is the no.1 P4P sparrer, no doubt in my mind.
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Old 08-04-2012, 09:11 AM   #22
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Agreed. Holds about as much value as Toxie Hall decking Rocky Marciano.
It hold LESS value because Godfrey wasn't as great as Marciano.
And he wasn't as great as Dempsey either.
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Old 08-04-2012, 09:15 AM   #23
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Dempsey tipped George Godfrey to be the next champion after Gene Tunney retired.

To be fair, he also picked Jimmy Slatterey to succeed him as champion.
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Old 08-04-2012, 09:20 AM   #24
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In that video when Dempsey throws the 1,2 that knocks his sparring partner down with is that a good example of the "jolt" power jab with the fall step that he talks about in his book? They show it good in the instant replay.
Can you explain at all? I scanned over his book the once but couldn't make heads of tales out of what he was trying to say.
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:55 PM   #25
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Maybe that opponent was just badly out-gunned.
Without knowing more about the man it's probably harsh to say "he could barely box". Do we know who he is ?
When you're being overwhelmed like that it's extremely difficult to show off your boxing abilities.
The contemporary accounts that I have read say that Dempsey was able to handle both Godfrey and Big Bill Tate in sparring. But of course there's no guarantee of anything in a real fight as both Dempsey and his partners were trying to get Jack ready for a real fight, as opposed to really trying to defeat the other man in the ring. (Actually Tate was probably often getting ready for one of his own fights as well.)

From the pictures of Tate with Dempsey getting ready for Willard, you can imagine Willard must have appeared as slow as a tree sloth to Dempsey after chasing the very fit looking Bill Tate around the ring.
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Old 08-06-2012, 03:40 PM   #26
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Maybe that opponent was just badly out-gunned.
Without knowing more about the man it's probably harsh to say "he could barely box". Do we know who he is ?
When you're being overwhelmed like that it's extremely difficult to show off your boxing abilities.
I've seen other small men sparring against a Jack Dempsey who went relatively hard and they showed honest skill even if they were physically outmatched.

This fellow showed nothing, comparable to the wrestler Cowboy Luttrell yet only half as tough. I wouldn't be surprised if he had been pulled out from the crowd as a form of entertainment.
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