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Old 08-07-2012, 07:58 PM   #2566
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He did virtually nothing in the second half of the second, while Clayton landed the right pretty much at will in the last minute of the round. Besides, Clayton should easily have won the third round by at least twice the margin that he did- especially given that Evans should have had points deducted after being cautioned three times for pushing down.
Evans won the first 7-2 and i scored it 4-4 in the second giving Evans an 11-6 advantage going into the last round.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:06 PM   #2567
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Evans won the first 7-2 and i scored it 4-4 in the second giving Evans an 11-6 advantage going into the last round.
Given that Clayton dominated the third by close to the same margin as Evans dominated the first, imo; and the two point deduction that should have been called against Evans, then a Clayton could still have secured a win on the cards, even if one were to call the second even (and I think if anyone were to have gotten the edge in the 2nd frame, it would have been Clayton in any event).

I don't think it's as bad as some other decisions that have occurred in these Olympics, but I personally don't think it was that great of a decision, either. Good fight between the two, no matter what one thinks of the zult.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:09 PM   #2568
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Canadian filed an appeal.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:26 PM   #2569
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Canadian filed an appeal.


On the same basis that Spence filed his against Vikas (penalty should have been deducted against Evans after the third caution for the same infraction). Not saying it'll be overturned, but that's the rationale behind it.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:28 PM   #2570
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Canadian filed an appeal.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:43 PM   #2571
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Canadian filed an appeal.
Hey, if Spence and the Japanese lad can find success...

Then again, we've seen a couple of valid appeals get rejected...
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:46 PM   #2572
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Hey, if Spence and the Japanese lad can find success...

Then again, we've seen a couple of valid appeals get rejected...
Add another valid appeal to that list.

Clayton's appeal was just rejected.
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Old 08-07-2012, 10:56 PM   #2573
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Well, it's still a more relevant topic than team usa in these olympics...
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Old 08-08-2012, 12:31 AM   #2574
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Appeal got denied, which is too bad considering its a 100% valid case. There's no denying that the British boxer was warned three times for the same infraction and was not deducted a point. I haven't heard what the grounds for denying the appeal were but I'll like to know what was so different about this situation. I'm not big on boxers being able to win bouts on appeals but I did think we had a pretty strong case and I thought Clayton deserved the win.

As for the fight itself it was a good fight and not one of the worst decisions ever....but a pretty god dam bad one. IMO Clayton made a mess of the first round and then the judges and the ref made a mess of the last round. I've watched this fight twice now. 7-2 in the first round is a bit wide for Evan compared to some other scores but clearly Evans dominated the first 2 minutes of the fight. So you can bitch about the score but really it wasn't that bad. The second round Clayton controlled and should have won. He closed the distance well and got the better of the almost all the exchanges. The shots that Evans did get were mostly landed during exchanges that he lost. He didn't land too many "telling" blows in the round. 6-3 was a fair score but 6-4 would probably have been the better score. The last round is really when Clayton got ****ed. I think at most you could give Evans 2 points. Added in the penalty that should have been and Clayton should have won the round by at least a 4 point margin.

I don't actually have a problem with Clayton losing the count back because I think he probably lost the first round worse then he won the 3rd round but I don't think it should have gone to a count back.


Which ever way you saw this fight though, it is clear that at 21 y/o Evans is a talent for the future and Clayton is a very tough/strong fighter with a boxer-pressure fighter style that is well suited for the pros. I hope both of them turn pro after the games so they can get it on again in the future.
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:35 AM   #2575
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Ah I don't think so better take a look at the pros for future reference. **** amateur boxing and its shit scoring system. Spence will be a better pro than that guy who beat him in the Olympics.
┐ What makes you think they'll have suscessfull pro careers when none of them are good enough to win a ****ing medal of any color ? , ┐ cherrypicking ? . They're all shit dude .
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Julio CÚsar La Cruz is fighting tonight, looked pure class last time I saw him. Looking forward to seeing his outing tonight.
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Old 08-08-2012, 05:31 AM   #2577
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shaunster how do you find richie woodhall and ronald mcintosh commentating?

I find them really repetative, they talk a bit too much..
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Old 08-08-2012, 05:53 AM   #2578
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shaunster how do you find richie woodhall and ronald mcintosh commentating?

I find them really repetative, they talk a bit too much..
Yeah - it is a bit much, but I suppose that's because we're listening to them for three hours on a daily basis.

Ronald seems to imagine a lot of what's going on too. The amount of times I've heard him going off about someone being hurt and their legs being all over the place when they're absolutely fine is ridiculous.

Plus, they're always urging people to throw in combinations, despite it being clear that this is not an effective way of scoring points.

On the whole though they're not too bad. I think the beeb could have done with a few different pairings just to keep it interesting tho, rather than just swapping the blow by blow guy over.
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Old 08-08-2012, 06:07 AM   #2579
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Yeah - it is a bit much, but I suppose that's because we're listening to them for three hours on a daily basis.

Ronald seems to imagine a lot of what's going on too. The amount of times I've heard him going off about someone being hurt and their legs being all over the place when they're absolutely fine is ridiculous.

Plus, they're always urging people to throw in combinations, despite it being clear that this is not an effective way of scoring points.

On the whole though they're not too bad. I think the beeb could have done with a few different pairings just to keep it interesting tho, rather than just swapping the blow by blow guy over.
Yeah, this is true, I've never watched so much tv consecutively, so its bound to get tedious at some point
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