What chance would you give Shogun in an 04/05 openweight fight with Crocop?

Kittikasem · 08-13-2012, 04:12 AM

Peak Shogun went in with some big guys in Pride (Coleman, Randleman, Overeem).

Crocop had some trouble at times with naturally smaller men (Randleman, Wanderlei).

Would 05 GP version of Shogun have a chance at 'doing a Randleman' on Crocop, or would Crocop lay a 'Vovchanchyn' on Rua?

the_don · 08-13-2012, 05:38 AM

In short? none

Haggis McJackass · 08-13-2012, 05:40 AM

It's a tough call, because only Fedor and Nog are capable of beating prime Cro-Cop. And nobody is capable of beating prime, healthy, properly-prepared Shogun. So I'm calling this one a draw.

Kittikasem · 08-13-2012, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Haggis McJackass

It's a tough call, because only Fedor and Nog are capable of beating prime Cro-Cop. And nobody is capable of beating prime, healthy, properly-prepared Shogun. So I'm calling this one a draw.

This sort of childish crap got boring years ago. Thanks for posting on my thread though, appreciated.

196osh · 08-13-2012, 06:06 AM

I think it would be a good fight but Shogun would probably get picked apart and TKO'd in the end.

Haggis McJackass · 08-13-2012, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kittikasem

This sort of childish crap got boring years ago. Thanks for posting on my thread though, appreciated.

No problem. Just trying to fall in line with the experts.

To answer your question, I would bet on the naturally bigger man.

Stoo · 08-13-2012, 07:08 AM

greathamza · 08-13-2012, 07:45 AM

It would have been a good fight but prime CC had his killer legs

Kittikasem · 08-13-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Haggis McJackass

No problem. Just trying to fall in line with the experts.

Yawn. Still boring.

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Originally Posted by Haggis McJackass

To answer your question, I would bet on the naturally bigger man.

Is that a rule, or just a choice in this case?

Haggis McJackass · 08-13-2012, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kittikasem

Is that a rule, or just a choice in this case?

General rule. If two guys are both strikers on more or less the same level, then the chances are the bigger man will win the fight.

thewinfella · 08-13-2012, 08:29 AM

Personally i think a very good chance , i think theres a decent chance Shogun would of subbed him

BewareofDawg · 08-13-2012, 12:58 PM

Bad match up for Shogun. He would have a hard time taking him down. He would also have a hard time clinching with him...Crocop was very good at pushing guys off him. Crocop by stoppage strikes.

Vic-JofreBRASIL · 08-13-2012, 02:38 PM

Small chance IMO.....

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Kittikasem Andre Ward: #1 SMW Ever ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,284 vCash: 500	What chance would you give Shogun in an 04/05 openweight fight with Crocop? Peak Shogun went in with some big guys in Pride (Coleman, Randleman, Overeem). Crocop had some trouble at times with naturally smaller men (Randleman, Wanderlei). Would 05 GP version of Shogun have a chance at 'doing a Randleman' on Crocop, or would Crocop lay a 'Vovchanchyn' on Rua?
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the_don newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 31 vCash: 1000	Re: What chance would you give Shogun in an 04/05 openweight fight with Crocop? In short? none
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Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: From the Lands Down Under. Posts: 22,523 vCash: 177	Re: What chance would you give Shogun in an 04/05 openweight fight with Crocop? It's a tough call, because only Fedor and Nog are capable of beating prime Cro-Cop. And nobody is capable of beating prime, healthy, properly-prepared Shogun. So I'm calling this one a draw.
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