boxing
Forum Home Boxing Forum European British Classic Aussie MMA Training
Go Back   Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > Classic Boxing Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-15-2012, 03:30 AM   #31
Bokaj
Champion
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 7,527
vCash: 1000
Default Re: James toney: The best I've faced

Quote:
Originally Posted by turbotime View Post
!!!


Have you boxed any? If so have you tried to emulate Jones' moves against anyone of decent ability?
Bokaj is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 08-15-2012, 03:59 AM   #32
frankenfrank
Champion
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 6,740
vCash: 3500
Default Re: James toney: The best I've faced

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bokaj View Post
Love seeing Mike get props like that. Jones is obviously the best he faced,
That was wrong


Quote:
Originally Posted by Bokaj View Post
though, although Mike was much more skilled.
That was true

Quote:
Originally Posted by turbotime View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bokaj View Post
Love seeing Mike get props like that. Jones is obviously the best he faced, though, although Mike was much more skilled.
That was true

Quote:
Originally Posted by turbotime View Post
Being the most skilled usually is the one who makes whatever they can work for them to their advantage.

Sure, McCallum had the classic boxer style but that doesn't mean his skills were better. Maybe his jab but everything else Roy has an edge in. Lead shots, foot work, combination punching, evasiveness, etc.
Most of times skills r not d reason 2 Y a fight ended d way it did


Quote:
Originally Posted by Bokaj View Post
No. Won't spend time educating you on boxing, but the simple fact is that McCallum was a top level fighter even without a semblance of speed and power. Slow Jones down to McCallum's level and he's nothing. Give Mike Jones' speed, reflexes and power and he's absolutely untouchable. No need to make it more complicated than that.
McCallum did have power .
And just as much speed as n old man fighting young men in their prime could realistically hope 2 have .

U R correct in d rest of your post .

Quote:
Originally Posted by turbotime View Post
When you make it look as easy as he did, apparently it makes you one-dimensional Jones could K you TFO or win every round of the fight.

Crazy how underrated his skills are by the casual fans.
Jones' skills were fighting d right names in d right time 4 him only by d time that they were either totally shot/not belonging 2d weight class he fought them at/both

Or Griffin #1 in which Roy got so frustrated he had 2 foul and get himself DQd .

Or d Griffin rematch in which Jones' management made sure Griffin will enter d ring cold .

Roy Jones was a Glass Jawed Fraud .
frankenfrank is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2012, 07:21 AM   #33
MrBumboclart
Gatekeeper
ESB Full Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 332
vCash: 500
Default Re: James toney: The best I've faced

Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillyPhan69 View Post
by James Toney
Sep 9th, 2009
Share this story

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ][Only registered and activated users can see links. ]


[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]In a new RingTV.com feature, James Toney reveals the best he faced in 10 categories during his long career.
James Toney enters his 20th year in professional boxing with Saturdayís non-televised bout against Matthew Greer on the undercard of Showtimeís Andre Ward-Shelby Pudwill offering. Who knows how far Toney will get in what has to be the last hurrah of his hall-of-fame career but he certainly has a lot to look back on, which the former three-division titleholder did recently with RingTV.com. In what will become a regular blog item featuring the most accomplished fighterís of our generation, Toney lists the best he faced in 10 important categories.

Best fighter: Mike McCallum -- Thatís an easy choice, right off the top of my head itís the Body Snatcher. He was the best fighter I fought at middleweight, super middleweight and cruiserweight. Out of all the fighters I fought, I respect him the most because he made me think about everything I tried to do. Before McCallum I was just runniní in on everyone, but he made me slow down and think for the first time.

Best Boxer: McCallum -- Yup, itís him again. Itís between McCallum and Michael Nunn, but I gotta go with McCallum because he was a master boxer who wasnít afraid to stand his ground. Nunn was mostly fast. I admit that he outboxed me for about nine rounds, but my body shots slowed him down. I told him during the fight ĎIím gonna catch you!í And I did.

Best puncher: Merqui Sosa -- Sam Peter is the hardest puncher Iíve fought, but pound-for-pound itís Sosa because he hurt me the most. Iíll never forget that fight, we fought on an ESPN show in Atlantic City on a Sunday. I went at him like I did everyone back then and that mother f_____ hit me so hard in the third round I was seeing triple for the next three rounds. He knew how to hit and he was so awkward that I couldnít time him and he caught me high on the head.

Quickest hands: Roy Jones -- He was fast. Iíll give him that, but thatís all Iíll give him. I would have knocked him out if I wasnít drained from losing 44 pounds in six weeks. I went in (that fight) like a fool and wasnít properly prepared.

Quickest feet: Nunn -- He had some fast-ass feet (laughing), didnít he? He was an escape artist for nine or 10 rounds, Ďtil I caught up to him.

Best defense: McCallum: He was right there in front of me, but I had a hard time hitting him with clean punches. I basically came into my own by fighting him. I learned how to be elusive without running around the ring by fighting Mike McCallum three times.

Best chin: Tony Thornton: The punching postman from Philly! (laughs) I thought I was gonna knock him out easy. He was squared up with his chin right there for me to hit but I hit him with every punch I had and he wouldnít budge. I hit him with my best left hook and he didnít blink.

Best jab: McCallum: Mikeís jab was like a piston. There were other guys I fought who had good jabs, like Nunn and Jones, but they just had speed and they just flicked it. Mike popped that jab with authority. He was an old-school fighter.

Strongest: Samuel Peter: He was just a big-ass African with brute African strength.

Smartest: McCallum: Come on, who do you think it is? Whoís the one fighter I truly respect? You got it, the Body Snatcher, Mike McCallum. I fought my share of boxers who thought they were clever like Roy Jones, Michael Nunn, Montell Griffin, and Reggie Johnson, but they were all scared to really fight. McCallum boxed, he fought, he defended, and he didnít run all over the ring. He could do all that because he was smart.
LOL
MrBumboclart is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2012, 07:55 AM   #34
MMJoe
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 1,818
vCash: 1000
Default Re: James toney: The best I've faced

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthpawJab View Post
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
He tried countering Griffin off the ropes, but Griffin was very tricky. Roy was a very good inside fighter.
You talk about Griffin and show a Sosa fight. Just say'n.
MMJoe is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2012, 11:58 AM   #35
Bokaj
Champion
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 7,527
vCash: 1000
Default Re: James toney: The best I've faced

Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnaNasakki View Post
Roy relied on speed, McCallum on not making a single mistake and never, ever being out of position.

Two different animals, but I know which one I'd rather put in a book to teach youngsters how to box. Mimicking Roy, unless you are a similar type of freak, is simply ugly, waiting to get knocked out fighting.

Unorthodox only serves a fighter if he's bringing something else(Brute strength, big hands, blazing fast-twitch muscle fibers) to the table. If you bring none of the above, unorthodox is, usually, just a PC word for bad boxer.
Where do you have McCallum among the best fighters you've seen in terms of skill and technique?
Bokaj is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Reply

Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > Classic Boxing Forum

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump






All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:03 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Boxing News 24 Forum 2015