George Foreman or Max Schmeling. Which one comes first in your HW list ?

Vic-JofreBRASIL · 08-17-2012, 01:22 PM

That´s an interesting question, isn´t it ??

Max beat a young Joe Louis ! IMO the best win at HW, ever.......no comparison with Foreman beating Frazier.....since Frazier is not as great as Joe and Foreman had some stylistic advantages.......(okay, Foreman beat Frazier twice and this makes it close, perhaps

)

Schmeling also has some very good wins on his record, IMO all of them comparable with Foreman´s wins against Norton, or Lyle.....
Is fair to say that in terms of resume Max has the advantage ?

H2H, I think Foreman is better, mainly because of his power and size...Schmeling was more skilled though.
I rate Foreman high also because of his comeback, but I have to say he really didn´t beat no one of notice there (Moore was a good win, obviously)...but then again, he was an old guy at the time so all things considered, it was impressive.

How do you see this comparison guys ??
Tell me your opinion ??

DaveK · 08-17-2012, 01:37 PM

I don't see Max's resume being any better than George's.

He came through bigtime with that win over Louis, but that's it.

Foreman smashes him h2h.

I like Schmeling though.

Flea Man · 08-17-2012, 02:00 PM

Foreman is in my top 5. Never really bothered past 15 but Max would be past that. Maybe not top 20.

Ramon Rojo · 08-17-2012, 02:01 PM

Foreman is easily higher rated.

H2H it's not even competitive. Foreman would destroy Schmeling.

Foreman also fought in probably most competitive period in heavyweight history. And made impressive comeback after age of 40.

frankenfrank · 08-17-2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramon Rojo

Foreman is easily higher rated.

H2H it's not even competitive. Foreman would destroy Schmeling.

Foreman also fought in probably most competitive period in heavyweight history. And made impressive comeback after age of 40.

i still think that u r better than most of d rest

mr. magoo · 08-17-2012, 03:41 PM

Foreman rates higher both p4p and head to head. Schmeling's win over Louis was a huge feather in his cap. But Foreman just has a lot more to go on.

janitor · 08-17-2012, 03:48 PM

I would say that it could be argued either way going into the Moorer fight.

The Moorer win seals it in favour of Foreman for me.

Head to head Foreman is the greater force, but Schmeling would be an awfull stylistic match for him.

Hookie · 08-17-2012, 09:03 PM

Foreman inside of 2 rounds!

red cobra · 08-17-2012, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic-JofreBRASIL

That´s an interesting question, isn´t it ??

Max beat a young Joe Louis ! IMO the best win at HW, ever.......no comparison with Foreman beating Frazier.....since Frazier is not as great as Joe and Foreman had some stylistic advantages.......(okay, Foreman beat Frazier twice and this makes it close, perhaps

)

Schmeling also has some very good wins on his record, IMO all of them comparable with Foreman´s wins against Norton, or Lyle.....
Is fair to say that in terms of resume Max has the advantage ?

H2H, I think Foreman is better, mainly because of his power and size...Schmeling was more skilled though.
I rate Foreman high also because of his comeback, but I have to say he really didn´t beat no one of notice there (Moore was a good win, obviously)...but then again, he was an old guy at the time so all things considered, it was impressive.

How do you see this comparison guys ??
Tell me your opinion ??

You pretty much nailed it for me Vic...can't add too much to this..Yeah, Foreman takes it, but that first Louis fight it a super plus for Schmeling..

turbotime · 08-17-2012, 11:14 PM

Really Vic?

Vic-JofreBRASIL · 08-17-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by turbotime

Really Vic?

I voted Foreman, I rate Foreman higher.......but I thought at least one or two guys here would make a case for Max....because IMO his resume is really comparable, to say the least.....

100% Foreman in the poll though, 80% or something like that was expected...100% is a bit surprising to me !

Stevie G · 08-18-2012, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramon Rojo

Foreman is easily higher rated.

H2H it's not even competitive. Foreman would destroy Schmeling.

Foreman also fought in probably most competitive period in heavyweight history. And made impressive comeback after age of 40.

Damn right. Schmelling was a good fighter,but Foreman was one of the greats.

red cobra · 08-18-2012, 05:34 AM

Foreman woulkd anhillate Schmeling, but he wouldn't have hit Max any harder than Max Baer did.

Box-Fan · 08-18-2012, 06:01 AM

Foreman!

Meazy-E · 08-18-2012, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramon Rojo

Foreman is easily higher rated.

H2H it's not even competitive. Foreman would destroy Schmeling.

Foreman also fought in probably most competitive period in heavyweight history. And made impressive comeback after age of 40.

Uh oh, you have disappointed Frankenfrank by making an accurate statement that most people would agree with.

Don't worry Frank I got him, we all know right now is the greatest era of heavyweight boxing not the late 60's and 70's with schmobirds like Ali, Frazier, and Norton and a comeback past the age of 40 to win the title at 45 is not impressive at all... and that it pales in comparison to a fighter who you would consider to be truly great, such as Butterbean.....

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Vic-JofreBRASIL Vic East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Santos Posts: 13,841 vCash: 1166	George Foreman or Max Schmeling. Which one comes first in your HW list ? That´s an interesting question, isn´t it ?? Max beat a young Joe Louis ! IMO the best win at HW, ever.......no comparison with Foreman beating Frazier.....since Frazier is not as great as Joe and Foreman had some stylistic advantages.......(okay, Foreman beat Frazier twice and this makes it close, perhaps ) Schmeling also has some very good wins on his record, IMO all of them comparable with Foreman´s wins against Norton, or Lyle..... Is fair to say that in terms of resume Max has the advantage ? H2H, I think Foreman is better, mainly because of his power and size...Schmeling was more skilled though. I rate Foreman high also because of his comeback, but I have to say he really didn´t beat no one of notice there (Moore was a good win, obviously)...but then again, he was an old guy at the time so all things considered, it was impressive. How do you see this comparison guys ?? Tell me your opinion ??
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DaveK Vicious & Malicious ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,838 vCash: 1000	Re: George Foreman or Max Schmeling. Which one comes first in your HW list ? I don't see Max's resume being any better than George's. He came through bigtime with that win over Louis, but that's it. Foreman smashes him h2h. I like Schmeling though.
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Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,062 vCash: 75	Re: George Foreman or Max Schmeling. Which one comes first in your HW list ? Foreman is in my top 5. Never really bothered past 15 but Max would be past that. Maybe not top 20.
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Ramon Rojo Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 13,805 vCash: 75	Re: George Foreman or Max Schmeling. Which one comes first in your HW list ? Foreman is easily higher rated. H2H it's not even competitive. Foreman would destroy Schmeling. Foreman also fought in probably most competitive period in heavyweight history. And made impressive comeback after age of 40.
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mr. magoo Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 12,511 vCash: 1000	Re: George Foreman or Max Schmeling. Which one comes first in your HW list ? Foreman rates higher both p4p and head to head. Schmeling's win over Louis was a huge feather in his cap. But Foreman just has a lot more to go on.
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janitor P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 19,051 vCash: 1000	Re: George Foreman or Max Schmeling. Which one comes first in your HW list ? I would say that it could be argued either way going into the Moorer fight. The Moorer win seals it in favour of Foreman for me. Head to head Foreman is the greater force, but Schmeling would be an awfull stylistic match for him. Last edited by janitor; 08-17-2012 at 04:09 PM.
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