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View Poll Results: More Skilled
Floyd "Money" Mayweather Jr. 107 50.95%
Roberto "Manos De Piedra" Duran 103 49.05%
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:49 PM   #31
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Duran is shit.

Meazy too.
Yeah you are ****ing with me, I went into your post history, you had me going.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:51 PM   #32
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we need a poll on this shite. this is getting good

i dont think many will disagree with me when i say duran was a beast at the lower weights. floyd too but in a different way. floyd is a masta at defense. but, duran was 1 of the most complete fighters ever at the lower weights. he was like a wall, literally. excellent combo puncher plus u couldnt hurt him
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:54 PM   #33
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we need a poll on this shite. this is getting good
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:06 PM   #34
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5-2 in favor of Floyd.

mrtony/Rex, what are your reasons for choosing Floyd?
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:08 PM   #35
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cobra, your reasons for Duran?
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:15 PM   #36
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He accomplished a considerable amount more with less physical advantages, and competed evenly with fighters greater than Floyd has ever beaten while past his prime and facing size discrepancies Floyd will never face. How? Craft. Skill. There is a difference between looking good stylistically, and demonstrating quality skill. Floyd is very skilled, but Duran has demonstrated more.
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:19 PM   #37
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Really, the only reason I chose Duran was that he grew a viscous beard.


Floyd has none, shameful.
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:20 PM   #38
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Mayweather dose more things better than most boxers. Including Duran.
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:21 PM   #39
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ripshitty, hello.
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When people see the word skilled on ESB they read it as defense eventhough there is more to skill than just defense.

In terms of defense Floyd is better because that is the basis of his style, sitting back and counter punching. Now he can do more than that but that is the foundation of Floyd's stlye so it stands to reason that he can sit back and counter better than Duran. However, Duran has one of the best defences that I've seen for a come forward fighter. Duran was very skilled at coming forward and slipping shots as he was being the aggressor. People seem to have this notion that he got hit with lots of shots and relied on his chin but it isn't true to anywhere near the extent that people believe it is, Duran slipped shots very well.

Duran is undoubtedly the better boxer when it comes to offense. While Floyd is good - throws certain shots well and has under-rated pop on his punches, he just doesn't have the variety, power or application that Duran has when attacking. That also stands to reason since Duran has a more aggressive style than Mayweather.

I would go with Duran on the reasons above and the fact that he did it against a better level of opposition for such a long period.

As I said, it all depends on what you look at though. 'Skilled' has almost become a by-word for defense and counter punching on here but all areas should be taken into account.
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:35 PM   #41
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:39 PM   #42
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When people see the word skilled on ESB they read it as defense eventhough there is more to skill than just defense.

In terms of defense Floyd is better because that is the basis of his style, sitting back and counter punching. Now he can do more than that but that is the foundation of Floyd's stlye so it stands to reason that he can sit back and counter better than Duran. However, Duran has one of the best defences that I've seen for a come forward fighter. Duran was very skilled at coming forward and slipping shots as he was being the aggressor. People seem to have this notion that he got hit with lots of shots and relied on his chin but it isn't true to anywhere near the extent that people believe it is, Duran slipped shots very well.

Duran is undoubtedly the better boxer when it comes to offense. While Floyd is good - throws certain shots well and has under-rated pop on his punches, he just doesn't have the variety, power or application that Duran has when attacking. That also stands to reason since Duran has a more aggressive style than Mayweather.

I would go with Duran on the reasons above and the fact that he did it against a better level of opposition for such a long period.

As I said, it all depends on what you look at though. 'Skilled' has almost become a by-word for defense and counter punching on here but all areas should be taken into account.
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Any Floyd supporters like to counter 1 man army's points?
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When people see the word skilled on ESB they read it as defense eventhough there is more to skill than just defense.

In terms of defense Floyd is better because that is the basis of his style, sitting back and counter punching. Now he can do more than that but that is the foundation of Floyd's stlye so it stands to reason that he can sit back and counter better than Duran. However, Duran has one of the best defences that I've seen for a come forward fighter. Duran was very skilled at coming forward and slipping shots as he was being the aggressor. People seem to have this notion that he got hit with lots of shots and relied on his chin but it isn't true to anywhere near the extent that people believe it is, Duran slipped shots very well.

Duran is undoubtedly the better boxer when it comes to offense. While Floyd is good - throws certain shots well and has under-rated pop on his punches, he just doesn't have the variety, power or application that Duran has when attacking. That also stands to reason since Duran has a more aggressive style than Mayweather.

I would go with Duran on the reasons above and the fact that he did it against a better level of opposition for such a long period.

As I said, it all depends on what you look at though. 'Skilled' has almost become a by-word for defense and counter punching on here but all areas should be taken into account.
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:05 PM   #45
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Chin,Stamina,Defense,Counter-Punching,Foot-movement, Punch-Selection,Timing. What else you got? You name it, Mayweather has the advantage excluding power.
On paper, one could argue Floyd has better skills, and thats HIGHLY debatable........but boxing isn't fought on paper. Mayweather has never faced a thunderstorm quite like Duran.
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