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Old 08-21-2012, 11:55 PM   #31
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Camarelle's only option may be turning pro if he still wants to box. Once you hit 34, you are no longer considered amateur.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:03 AM   #32
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Helenius May just be cashing out.
Terrible!

Helenius is now more determined than ever before. His dad is writing on finnish boxing site and according his thoughts about Robert you could not be more wrong.

Helenius might come worse than he was before the injury sure but Helenius himself thinks it was just misfortune setback and retard.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:29 AM   #33
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Helenius might come worse than he was before the injury
That's hardly possible, is it
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Old 08-31-2012, 01:36 AM   #34
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I think Camarelle is to old to turn pro now in my opinion.
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:03 AM   #35
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I think Camarelle is to old to turn pro now in my opinion.
I think so too, but he has a chance to fight for a title if he gets going. In 3 years from now, Vitali will be retired, and Wlad will be 39. Cammarelle at 36-37 could be a factor.
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:08 PM   #36
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Vitali is 41, Tony Thompson is 40, Rahman is 39, Mormeck is 39 and all of them are or were involved in title fights this year, so Camarelle is not too old to make a run at 33.

Is he really turning pro, I still have my doubts.

Thing is, he won't have a long pro career, my guess is around 5 years .

The best course would be to build up fast, already starting in 2012, with a busy 2013 to pass the mark of 10 bouts and then push directly for big fights in 2014.

Pekovic would be a nice name to start and by this time next year he could be facing the likes of Sprott already.

If I were his promoter I'd try to:

late october 2012 - vs I. Perkovic
late november 2012 - M. Pedyura
january 2013 - Danny Williams
march 2013 - Tom Dallas
may - Vidoz or Maddalone
july - Zavorotnyi or Mazikin
september - Bydenko or Rossy
october - Monte Barret, Botha or Sprott
december - Jovo Pudar, Sosnowsky or ***ton
early 2014 - Gerber, Pianeta, T. Thompson, Rahman, Toney, Oquendo or Charr
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:39 PM   #37
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If Wlad is fighting Mormeck and Wach, then why not Cammarelle. Cammarelle could position himself for a title shot in 2 years with optimal prep. One of the reasons Wladimir fought Mormeck was to market K2 in France--the same reasoning could apply to Cammarelle.
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Old 09-08-2012, 02:36 AM   #38
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If Wlad is fighting Mormeck and Wach, then why not Cammarelle. Cammarelle could position himself for a title shot in 2 years with optimal prep. One of the reasons Wladimir fought Mormeck was to market K2 in France--the same reasoning could apply to Cammarelle.

Makes sense. A win over Cammarelle after he's had some pro wins against his name, would also be a meaningful name on Wlad's resume. (If Wlad were to win the contest).
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:51 AM   #39
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Will Cammarelle turn into pro, or is he going to stay an amateur?
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:25 AM   #40
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Will Cammarelle turn into pro, or is he going to stay an amateur?
Neither. He will be in limbo, with the AIBA Professional league.
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Old 08-23-2013, 04:38 AM   #41
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Cammarelle won the gold medal, but was robbed. He deserved the gold, he won the fight.
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Cammarelle won the gold medal, but was robbed. He deserved the gold, he won the fight.
You ain't whistling Dixie (this time), Farmy.
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Old 08-23-2013, 10:25 AM   #43
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Cammarelle won the gold medal, but was robbed. He deserved the gold, he won the fight.
He did.
I would have liked to have seen the "real" final between Savon and Cammarelle.
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Old 08-23-2013, 10:48 AM   #44
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He did.
I would have liked to have seen the "real" final between Savon and Cammarelle.
...or any other configuration where the outcome had not been predetermined.

Joshua got a little help in all four stages along the paved road to Gold.

I'm not saying he didn't legitimately deserve the nod over Zhilei or even Dychko, but he always received a little extra credit and his opponents were always deprived the benefit of the doubt.

Savon and Cammarelle both definitely got screwed, hard.
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Old 08-23-2013, 01:28 PM   #45
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Guess he aint turning pro
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