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Old 08-26-2012, 06:34 AM   #76
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Makes you wonder how Floyd makes $30-80 larges ones per fight!
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:42 AM   #77
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so would you say amir khan makes more from endorsements and sponsorships in total than his fights?
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Old 08-26-2012, 05:43 PM   #78
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Khan is one of the exceptions to the rules i'd imagine. Turned pro off the back of a massive Olympic performance etc, up until now he's been profitable i'd have thought. Interesting thread though lads, thanks to Smigga and Al especially. It is probably appropriate that I announce my retirement from considering a pro career here.
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:00 PM   #79
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lets say a fighter is 4-0 a good fighter but not a huge name but well known on average show undercard and building your name you get around 1.1 grand 25% goes to manager, your taxed and 10% to trainer, 50 pounds is also paid to someone to wrap your hands as this is specialist job usually at pro shows theres one or two guys running around wrapping everyones hands. So you get 1.1 grand minus all your reductions your walking with maybe 800 pounds or so. as a prospect your trying to build your name and need to sell a good 80-100 tickets each time you fight at 30 pounds a pop so you can only really fight 4 maybe 5 times a year max although more realisticly your out 3 times a year...do you really think you can live of 5 grand a year!? you also get around 10% of tickets sales so someone like evalgou who aint all that great but can sell a ticket is making good money purely because he sells 800 odd tikcets so eddie pays him well!

then lets say you progress to 9-0 you get a southern area title shot which is around 2.5 grand although again it depends on how many tickets you sale and what you did as an amatuer but im talking an average fighter will only get 2.5-4 grand for a southern area title shot progress to british title 10-16 grand...again it jus depends how marketable you are and how many tickets you sale. I know some fighters who won abas and where big names turned over with ****** and they got 10 grand per fight but thats not the common. on the other hand i know a very recent british titlist who only got 3 grand for defending his title! so it really depends but 90% of pros work on top of their boxing.

Managers and promoters wont sign you unless you can sell a tikcet unless your willing to go on the road and act as journeyman which is the only real way to make a living out of the sport but who the **** wants to be known as a profesional loser?!

the game really does need a shake up someone like spencer fearon is great for the sport becuase hes not worried about ticket sales and he gives his fighters oppurtunitys and fights without having them worry about selling tickets! this means the fighter can knuckle down and focus on his training instead of constant facebook and twitter updates and askign everyone under the sun whether they wanna spend 30 pounds hard earned money to see them bash up a journeyman...

any long story short theres **** all money in pro boxing and even less being a trainer who only gets 10% of a 1.1 grand purse whch is around 100 pounds so your giving up your time to come and train a fighter to get 100 pounds most of these guys do it for first and foremost the love of the sport and secondly because there waiting for that chance to get that million to one shot at a title and maybe make some money out of it.

You also pay about a grand yearly to get your medical bills all paid brain scan eye test etc. i know a pro whos actaully lost money out of turning pro and hes 3-0 and a great prospect. the way the business works put alot of people off it but thats the way it is promoters dont really promote they just get prospects to sell tickets you didnt all this shit about undefeated records back in the 50's and 60's a fight was just that a fight now you got to any card you choose and its full of 80-20 fights which are neither good to watch, interesting or good for the sport.

Also with regards to amatuers at the top level olympians there on 32 grand a year plus they are in sheffeild monday to thursday weekly were all there meals, living space bills etc are paid for then they go home and train with there club coaches friday to sunday at the top teir you get 32 grand and theres 4 tiers of funding the bottom level are the commonwealth types who train in sheffeild once every 2 weeks and are on 8 grand a year.

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Very good and very true, a lot of good boxers stop trying or pack in, and a lot of the amateur stars aint great fighters anyway as there now different games since headguards and running and flicking got popular, the good solid punching types rarely get to be amateur stars. catch 22.
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:05 PM   #80
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I know a couple of young lads who've turned pro in the last 12 months. One has been suffering hand injuries and is currently 1-0, the other is doing well and is now 3-0. The one who is 3-0, is making about 2-2.5 grand per fight, that's gross before paying expenses. He works part time in construction.

The reality of the pro game is that there isn't much money in it below world level, boxing doesn't have the backing of football. It's a tough way to make a living, factor in the eventuality of hand injuries, and the risks of head and brain injuries, and unless someone is exceptionally gifted, I wouldn't recommend it at all. It truly is a tough way to make a living, and I've got a lot of respect for those who take the risks.
Very good, i can agree with that
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you think Froch is getting near a million a fight there is an undercard to pay for, the venue, staff, equipment. Say if 9,000 people go and pay an average of 80 a ticket thats 720,000, but yeah of course Froch gets a million
Your forgetting TV revenue, I cannot comment on how much SkySports Pay for a Froch fight but I reckon it's 500k + Because I'm sure Khan's - 3 fight deal is 1 million per a fight with Sky.
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I know a couple of young lads who've turned pro in the last 12 months. One has been suffering hand injuries and is currently 1-0, the other is doing well and is now 3-0. The one who is 3-0, is making about 2-2.5 grand per fight, that's gross before paying expenses. He works part time in construction.

The reality of the pro game is that there isn't much money in it below world level, boxing doesn't have the backing of football. It's a tough way to make a living, factor in the eventuality of hand injuries, and the risks of head and brain injuries, and unless someone is exceptionally gifted, I wouldn't recommend it at all. It truly is a tough way to make a living, and I've got a lot of respect for those who take the risks.
2-2.5k after 3-0 is not bad at all, there was guys saying on these forums you get below 700 in your first few fights. Ofcourse 2.5k a fight is still not enough to make it your full time occupation because you probably will be fighting 4-6 times a year max, but the aim of the game is to progress and there's where the money will be, but in the meantime you can easily hold a part time job of 20-25 hours a week.
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:31 AM   #83
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exaclty mate does he really think they are going to give brook a huge purse like 150k when they have a good 12 fighters on the undercard people like purdy will be on a good 8-10 grand and then you have mcs, secuirty, doctors, ambulance, timekeepers, board officials then you give away alot of free tickets to celebs and big name fighters and the family of the fighters loved ones mums dads etc get free tickets eddie will be taking his cut and it will be a big cut you really think eddie does this for free? his dad will get his cut there is alot alot alot of overheads for running a show and add to the fact the motorpoint areana dont come cheap yet brooks going to get 150k yeah...i know the figures these guy get and i know how much it costs to put on a show its not cheap!
mcs,security, doctors, ambulances, timekeepers are all stuff that costs in the hundreds for the night not in the thousands, I think your out of touch with reality you class as 150k as huge amount of money? your comparing it with average working wages but in sports that's not much money and easily realistic on a card that big. if anything I reckon it was more than that. Brook might not be world champion but he is doing bigger numbers than some world champions as far as TV interest and ticket sales.
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