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Old 09-07-2012, 01:38 PM   #46
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Yeah I know all about Jones, my point is if you can't judge him off one fight at heavy how can you judge him to beat a heavyweight of Norton's calibre? Surely the door swings both ways?

Also, I agree there are guys he could outmanoeuvre; I do not agree he could take out Norton.
I didnt pick Jones to win I said I wouldnt be surprised if Jones caught him because Norton has been down and out in several fights. He was first knocked out by a 188 pounder.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:45 PM   #47
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As I said, why wouldn't you be surprised when:

-Apart from once it was massive heavyweight punchers that stopped Kenny

-Roy hasn't stopped anyone of Ken's size?

Just seems an out of the box pick.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:26 PM   #48
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:24 AM   #49
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If quite a few is 3, then I can see where you're coming from more. He was blown out by Foreman (who was blowing everyone out at that time and is one of the top 2 hardest punchers ever), blown out by Shavers (one of the top 2, most likely the hardest, punchers ever), and Cooney (whose left hook packed more raw power than almost any other fighter's punches in history).

It wasn't really the quick punches that got to Norton, as was shown in the Ali and Holmes fights. It was more the hugely powerful punches that froze him up and the said punchers unloaded on him to knock him out. Jones wasn't the puncher that guys like Ali or Holmes were at heavy, and certainly couldn't dream of being strong or hard punching as Foreman, Shavers, or Cooney.

If you're going to question Norton's chin, then you must question Jones's chin too, because he got blown out in brutal fashion more times than Norton did. He got blown out by people who didn't hit as hard, weren't as strong, and arguably weren't any better than Norton was.

We all know that Norton didn't have a chin of granite, but let's be real, if his chin was half as bad as it's starting to be seen as, he would've been blown out in almost every fight.
I agree to an extent and wouldn't pick a KO for Jones, although the irony is many pick Dempsey who weighed the same as Jones while being a less explosive puncher to blow Norton out the water but then laugh at the thought of Jones ko'ing Norton.


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As I said, why wouldn't you be surprised when:

-Apart from once it was massive heavyweight punchers that stopped Kenny

-Roy hasn't stopped anyone of Ken's size?

Just seems an out of the box pick.
He's only fought 1 HW so these points are a tad moot. The one 230lb HW he did fight he stunned/hurt while boxing reasonably conservatively. I don't think a conservatively boxing Jones would KO Norton, but I do think he can stun him
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:49 PM   #50
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A prime Norton's Ko's Roy Jones...
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