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Old 09-11-2012, 10:44 AM   #16
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Default Re: THE RING P4P LIST HAS BEEN UPDATED. Congrats to Andre Ward & Anselmo Moreno.

Few things, why don't they rank Floyd and Manny #1, leaving room for another ranked fighter, having #1 vacant and them 2 at #2 combined is absolute nonsense, Klitschko's cannot rank P4P based on there skill set, thats always been my opinion, Bradley and Moreno are not P4P top fighters, Donaire hasn't got the resume of the top 5 therefore should not be in the top 5
  1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
  2. Manny Pacquiao
  3. Juan Manuel Marquez
  4. Andre Ward
  5. Sergio Martinez
  6. Nonito Donaire
  7. Yuriorkis Gamboa
  8. Miguel Cotto
  9. Carl Froch
  10. Brian Viloria
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:48 AM   #17
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Last 3 years going off what u said
ok cool
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:48 AM   #18
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who has Jmm officially beat in the last 3 years worth mentioning?
Manny Pacquiao among others
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:50 AM   #19
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How the hell does Nonito rank ahead of Marquez?
He has beat 2 fighters that were P4P top ten at the time he fought them and he won impressively. Darchinyan and Montial.

Obviously Marquez arguably beating Pacquaio he should be ahead but if Ring think Marquez won the fight shouldn't he then be ahead of Pacquaio?
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:50 AM   #20
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Few things, why don't they rank Floyd and Manny #1, leaving room for another ranked fighter, having #1 vacant and them 2 at #2 combined is absolute nonsense, Klitschko's cannot rank P4P based on there skill set, thats always been my opinion, Bradley and Moreno are not P4P top fighters, Donaire hasn't got the resume of the top 5 therefore should not be in the top 5
  1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
  2. Manny Pacquiao
  3. Juan Manuel Marquez
  4. Andre Ward
  5. Sergio Martinez
  6. Nonito Donaire
  7. Yuriorkis Gamboa
  8. Miguel Cotto
  9. Carl Froch
  10. Brian Viloria
how can you rank manny or jmm over ward??if you think jmm beat manny he shouldnt be #2 even if you think he beat bradley..and if you think manny beat jmm then how the hell is he over ward??and how is cotto top 10 when he lost and hasnt beat anyone worth mentioning in years?
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:51 AM   #21
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Manny Pacquiao among others
but on the p4p list you just posted you got manny at #2...how?
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:54 AM   #22
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Mayweather
Marquez
Ward
Martinez
Pacquiao
Donaire
Bradley
Wlad
Mares
Viloria/Gamboa
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:57 AM   #23
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Floyds last 3 fights he has beaten 3 current champions

Mannys last 3 fights

Mosley-hadnt won in 2 years
Jmm-38 year old lightweight
bradley-lost


how in the hell are they tied?

floyd's last 3 fights:

2010: mosley - shot
2011: ortiz - overhyped quitter
2012: cotto - pac's leftover

so floyd has since 2010 has only 3 fights against 1 shot fghter and 1 overhyped quitter and you think he is the best?
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:59 AM   #24
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Mayweather
Marquez
Ward
Martinez
Pacquiao
Donaire
Bradley
Wlad
Mares
Viloria/Gamboa
i would put ward then sergio above pee pee mouth. then bradley and donaire above dapidroid.
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:01 AM   #25
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how can you rank manny or jmm over ward??if you think jmm beat manny he shouldnt be #2 even if you think he beat bradley..and if you think manny beat jmm then how the hell is he over ward??and how is cotto top 10 when he lost and hasnt beat anyone worth mentioning in years?
First off, post a list, then pick at others !!!

Secondly, Pacquiao has done things Marquez is not capable of doing, brutal KO of Hatton, brutal demolition job on a prime Cotto, and the exploits above 140, Marquez stylistically matches Pacquiao really well, and is a better tactician, and yes i do believe he beat Pacquiao (3rd time) but overall i still have Manny ranked higher than Marquez due to achievements / standing in the sport !!

Marquez is a 4 weight world champion who began his career as a FW, Andre Ward is the closest thing there can be to an " undisputed " champion of ONE weight class

Marquez has fought the elite of the sport for well over a decade, Ward is just beginning to taste the elite of the sport right now !! , big difference, Ward will go on to be a P4P great, maybe #1 by this time next year, but Marquez right now is higher than Ward P4P based on what he's achieved & resume

Cotto once again is in there on achievements and ability, he is probably the best WW on the planet barring Mayweather and Pacquiao, he's without doubt top 3 @154 too, he's won and held world titles at 140, 47, & 54, he defines the term P4P, thats why he ranks P4P

Post your list up, then we can dance ...............................
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i would put ward then sergio above pee pee mouth. then bradley and donaire above dapidroid.
eh, maybe. Beating P4P #2 Pac (moving up to do so) is better than any recent win Martinez and Ward have had IMO
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:03 AM   #27
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Ward is 100% ahead of Pac at least at this point IMO.


Pac hasn't done anything meaningful since Cotto.
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:04 AM   #28
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What is peoples problem on here with Manny ? Talking about ranking Martinez over him, what bollocks. Ward may have a shout but for me Mayweather and Pacquaio are still blatantly the best boxers on the planet.
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:05 AM   #29
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why do people try to take it away from pac that him and jmm had a really close fight. pac did not lose to a shot version of jmm. he fought a well prepared jmm who bulked up really good and have always had pac's number as seen in the previous 2 fights. i know, pac has long since moved to 147, but still jmm was huge in that fight and looked good and not shot at all.

it should more of a testament to jmm's greatness as well as pac's. these two were top pfp fighters when they fought. they should be at the top still and let the others like donaire and sergio to prove themselves more.

also, people take away too much from pac from the bradley loss. again that was a close fight but should have been pac's w, or worst case, a draw. still, bradley is a very decent opponent.
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:06 AM   #30
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Ward is 100% ahead of Pac at least at this point IMO.


Pac hasn't done anything meaningful since Cotto.
So just who from Kessler, Froch & Dawson is better than Barrera, Morales, Marquez & Cotto ??? ..........................
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