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[puga_ni_nana]

Originally Posted by Nay_Sayer

Lol...

I think this should be the Pactard quote of the day.

cotto did better against floyd than bradley did against pac.

[SHADOW BOX]

No Mares??

[larryx2012]

Originally Posted by puga_ni_nana

if you have pac losing to bradley, then you can say that a past his prime cotto won over floyd. even cotto did better than a prime, p4p fighter in bradley did. pac-jmm was a close fight between two top p4p fighters.

bradley got the decision over manny floyd damn near ko'd cotto and won A WIDE DECISION and ANOTHER TITLE OVER THE #1 GUY AT 154....jmm is a lightweight who was cherrypicked..manny won but some felt he lost so either way he lost his damn last fight......floyd hasnt even come close to losing..nice try tho

[Nay_Sayer]

Originally Posted by Collie

I agree but some people would give Pacquaio no credit at all for beating Mosely.

If you want to give Pacquiao credit for beating the Mosley who hadn't won a fight in more than TWO years then you should also give Pacquiao an equal amount of credit for shamelessly DUCKING the Mosley who had just KO'ed Antonio Margarito.

1 + 1 = 2

Pactards need to remove their heads from their asses...

[larryx2012]

Originally Posted by puga_ni_nana

cotto did better against floyd than bradley did against pac.

but manny lost......and foyd took cottos belt....

[Nay_Sayer]

Originally Posted by puga_ni_nana

cotto did better against floyd than bradley did against pac.

This should be the runner up Pactard quote of the day.

Your hero LOST his last fight. Deal with it...

[larryx2012]

Originally Posted by collie

i agree but some people would give pacquaio no credit at all for beating mosely.

why in the hell should he get credit for beating a guy who hadnt won in 2 years? hell after Mosley beat Margo he stalked Manny for a damn fight even offered to go to 142 and was denied

[Collie]

Originally Posted by larryx2012

but manny lost......and foyd took cottos belt....

In fairness, only ardent Pacquaio bashers say Bradley won that fight.

[Nay_Sayer]

Originally Posted by Collie

In fairness, only ardent Pacquaio bashers say Bradley won that fight.

Please stop with this bullshit...

[larryx2012]

Originally Posted by Collie

In fairness, only ardent Pacquaio bashers say Bradley won that fight.

no the Judges say he won that fight...and even if you think he won most think he lost to Jmm..so thats 2 bad fights in a row

[Henke67]

I'd go for something like;

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Andre Ward
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. JM Marquez
5. Nonito Donaire
6. Sergio Martinez
7. Yuriorkis Gamboa
8. Carl Froch
9. Abner Mares
10. Anselmo Moreno

If Gamboa doesn't fight soon, I'd have Nishioka or Bradley moving up.

[puga_ni_nana]

Originally Posted by larryx2012

no the Judges say he won that fight

• Danny Flexen, Boxing News: 115-113 Bradley
• Cameron Sharpe, Boxing Fancast: 115-115 Draw
• Chris Manix, Sports Illustrated: 115-113 Pacquiao
• Lem Satterfield, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
• Gordon Marino, The Wall Street Journal: 115-113 Pacquiao
• Armando Alvarez, Telemundo: 115-113 Pacquiao
• Jake Donovan, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
• Terry Dooley, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
• Jordan Capobianco, BoxingNews24.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Franklin McNeil, Newark Star-Ledger: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Brett Okamoto, ESPN: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Steve Bunce, BoxNation.com/BBC: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Juan Manuel Marquez: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Max Kellerman, HBO: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Andreas Hale, FightNews.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Brian Arman Graham, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Pacquiao
• George Willis, The New York Post: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Rick Reeno, ***********.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Ben Thompson, FightHype.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Tim Smith, New York Daily News: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Suge Green, On the Grind Boxing Radio: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Steve Zemach, The Queensbury Rules.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Michael Nelson, TheCruelestSport.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Tom Gray, SecondsOut.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Joel Sebastionelli, LIITR Box Radio: 116-112 Pacquiao
• CheckHook.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• ********************: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Ricky Hatton: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Wayne McCullough: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Alexander Belenky, Sport-Express.ru: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Rob Day, RingNews24.com: 117-112 Pacquiao
• Ryan Burton, ***********.com: 117-112 Pacquiao
• Matt Youmans, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Graham Houston, FightWriter.com/FightNews.com/ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Stephen Edwards, BoxingTalk.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Kieran Mulvaney, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Ron Borges, Boston Herald: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Cliff Rold, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Chris Robinson, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Ronnie Shields, boxing trainer: 117-111 Pacquiao
• David Mayo, The Grand Rapids Press: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Robert Little, BlackSportsOnline.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Jorge Hernandez, The Low Blow.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• David Greisman, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Benny Henderson, DogHouseBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Ryan Phillips, BleacherReport.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Graham Parker, The Guardian (UK): 117-111 Pacquiao
• Ed Graney, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Luis Sandoval, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Jonathan Sakti, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Richie Tomasini, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Tim Starks, The Queensbury Rules: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Champ Ross, DaTruthBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Darren Velasco, 8CountNews.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Ryan Maquinana, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
• George Diaz, The Orlando Sentinel: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 117-111 Pacquiao
• FightersRated.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Luke Thomas, MMAFighting.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Tommy Gunn, BoxingAsylum.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Charles Farrell, No Holds Barred Radio Show: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Gareth Davies, London Telegraph: 117-111 Pacquiao
• John Perretti, No Holds Barred Radio Show: 117-111 Pacquiao
• John Raspanti, DogHouseBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Ron Lewis, Primetime/BBC: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Brent Brookhouse, SBNation.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Jake Emen, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Alexey Sukachev, Sports.ru: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Kevin Mitchell, The Guardian (UK): 118-112 Pacquiao
• Steve Lillis, BoxNation: 118-111 Pacquiao
• Nick Xouris, FightHype.com: 118-111 Pacquiao
• Brett Newton, Pound4Pound.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Joseph Herron, FightSaga.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Mark Lyons, 8CountNews.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Danny "Swift" Garcia: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Mike Koppinger, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Ryan Songalia, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Robert Ecksel, Boxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Pete O'Brien, USA Today: 118-110 Pacquiao
• John McCormick, BoxingTalk.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Victor Contreras, The Sacramento Bee: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Eric Raskin, HBO/TheSweetScience.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Chuck Giampa, Showtime: 118-110 Pacquiao
• John Russell, boxing trainer (Buster Douglas trainer): 118-110 Pacquiao
• Rich Marotta, KFI Los Angeles: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Jeff Mayweather: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Kelsey McCarson, TheSweetScience.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Mario Cabrera, The Boxing Republic: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Ramon Aranda, 3MoreRounds.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Colin Seymour, Examiner.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Nigel Collins, Espn.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Paddy Cronan, On the Grind Boxing Radio: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Denzil Stone, OnTheBreak.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Phil Jay, WorldBoxingNews.net: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Geoffrey Ciani, EastSideBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Michael Rosenthal, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Eugeny Pilipenko, Vringe.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Vadim Zhuk, Championat.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Ken Pollitt, the13thround.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Ted Sares, Boxing.com: 119-111 Pacquiao
• Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 119-110 Pacquiao
• Barry Tompkins, Showtime: 119-110 Pacquiao
• Vittorio Tafur, The San Francisco Chronicle: 119-109 Pacquiao
• Ray Markarian, TheSweetScience.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
• Harold Lederman, HBO: 119-109 Pacquiao
• Dan Rafael, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
• Max Parker, BoxingWatchers.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
• Scott Sawitz, Fox Sports/Inside Fights: 119-109 Pacquiao
• Leroy Cleveland, FightSaga.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
• Michael Woods, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
• Michael Marley, BoxingConfidential.com/Examiner.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
• Skip Bayless, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao

• Among the experts above, 120 scored the bout for Pacquiao, 1 scored the bout a draw, and 1 scored the bout for Bradley.
• None of the scores for Pacquiao was offered by Philippine media.
• The draw score and the score for Bradley were not provided by American media.

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[randy brown]

Originally Posted by Collie

In fairness, only ardent Pacquaio bashers say Bradley won that fight.

i have timmy comfortably winning against pac

[puga_ni_nana]

Originally Posted by Nay_Sayer

If you want to give Pacquiao credit for beating the Mosley who hadn't won a fight in more than TWO years then you should also give Pacquiao an equal amount of credit for shamelessly DUCKING the Mosley who had just KO'ed Antonio Margarito.

1 + 1 = 2

Pactards need to remove their heads from their asses...

did you gave credit to floyd for shamelessly ducking cotto back in 2008 when he was prime and undefeated?

[puga_ni_nana]

Originally Posted by randy brown

i have timmy comfortably winning against pac

i'm sure you have. how about your floyd-cotto scorecards? did you have it 12-0 for floyd?