Would Jake Ellenberger be more successful at 185?

HawkFan16 · 09-12-2012, 06:25 PM

I just ask this out of curiosity, because Ellenberger is one of my favorite fighters (the only fighter at 170 I like better is Johny Hendricks), and I always love watching Ellenberger, and he's done well in general at 170, but I wonder if he would be better off at 185.

In short, in his last couple of fights, he's had TERRIBLE stamina. I think part of that is because he cuts a lot of weight; I was watching the Shields fight over again, and I was shocked at how much bigger and bulkier Ellenberger looked in comparison to Shields, himself a middleweight before and after that fight. I hadn't really noticed it before. I was talking to some friends about this, and they do think his stamina would be better at 185, but at the same time some of them feel that part of what makes him so dangerous is how he can just manhandle guys at 170, and they think he wouldn't be able to do that/his power wouldn't be nearly as potent on the guys north a division.

What do you all think though? You think he'd be best off staying at 170 or moving up to 185?

Rob_Floyd · 09-12-2012, 06:42 PM

I don't know. He already gives up size to most of his opponents at WW.

thewinfella · 09-12-2012, 06:51 PM

Naa

Not for me, there is some logic in the cardio theory, Ellenberger does seem to crash but he runs a big risk of being run over by the monsters @185

He's a WW IMHO, he does need to work on them stamina issues, and its surprising because he is a wrestler

Tko4 · 09-12-2012, 11:53 PM

He's too short for 185.

Francis75 · 09-13-2012, 12:39 AM

He's too small for 185 imo. I know the ufc list him as 6' or so but really he's about 5'9. Imagine him against large middles like Stann etc.

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HawkFan16 Unshot/In My Prime ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,758 vCash: 1000	Would Jake Ellenberger be more successful at 185? I just ask this out of curiosity, because Ellenberger is one of my favorite fighters (the only fighter at 170 I like better is Johny Hendricks), and I always love watching Ellenberger, and he's done well in general at 170, but I wonder if he would be better off at 185. In short, in his last couple of fights, he's had TERRIBLE stamina. I think part of that is because he cuts a lot of weight; I was watching the Shields fight over again, and I was shocked at how much bigger and bulkier Ellenberger looked in comparison to Shields, himself a middleweight before and after that fight. I hadn't really noticed it before. I was talking to some friends about this, and they do think his stamina would be better at 185, but at the same time some of them feel that part of what makes him so dangerous is how he can just manhandle guys at 170, and they think he wouldn't be able to do that/his power wouldn't be nearly as potent on the guys north a division. What do you all think though? You think he'd be best off staying at 170 or moving up to 185?
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09-12-2012, 06:42 PM	#2
Rob_Floyd Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 4,713 vCash: 847	Re: Would Jake Ellenberger be more successful at 185? I don't know. He already gives up size to most of his opponents at WW.
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thewinfella The Golden Boy East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 7,231 vCash: 75	Re: Would Jake Ellenberger be more successful at 185? Naa Not for me, there is some logic in the cardio theory, Ellenberger does seem to crash but he runs a big risk of being run over by the monsters @185 He's a WW IMHO, he does need to work on them stamina issues, and its surprising because he is a wrestler
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Tko4 Left high kick ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NY Posts: 2,285 vCash: 1000	Re: Would Jake Ellenberger be more successful at 185? He's too short for 185.
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09-13-2012, 12:39 AM	#5
Francis75 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,086 vCash: 1000	Re: Would Jake Ellenberger be more successful at 185? He's too small for 185 imo. I know the ufc list him as 6' or so but really he's about 5'9. Imagine him against large middles like Stann etc.
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