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Old 09-21-2012, 09:23 AM   #31
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Ward can be argued for number 1, let alone 2. What he did in the super 6 was just beyond spectacular. He beat all those champions and then beat Dawson, even though I'm in the "he was weight drained" crowed". Still, I'm not sure if i ever seen quality wins that were so close together like that. Kessler, Bika, Froch, Dawson, Abraham?? Doesn't get any better than that. I wouldn't argue with anyone who wants to consider him number 1, especially since Manny and Floyd are only fighting like once a year. They need to quit hovering them over the number 1 spot and give it to the more deserving, active boxers like Martinez or Ward.
my sentiments exactly
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:17 AM   #32
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Ward just treated Dawson like a 13yr old boy in the ring. Ward is no doubt #2 P4P. I wouldn't hate on somebody even putting him at #1
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:32 AM   #33
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You people are crazy, a guy who has fought at one weight class cannot be p4p #1, Ward has beaten great fighters, but he hasn't ever been at a size disadvantage, has never given any type of advantage to anyone, but he is ranked on talent only, he don't have anything else putting him on the p4p list.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:18 PM   #34
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1. Floyd Money Mayweather
2. Ward/Martinez
3. Ward/Martinez
4. Marquez
5. Donaire
6. Pacquiao

Idiot list.

1. Pac
2. Martinez
3. Marquez
4. Donaire
5. Ward
6. May

Number six is a gift because I dont want the Flomos to cry.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:19 PM   #35
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Seriously, Pac wouldve made short work of Junior, but Martinez cant. Their ranks should be miles apart.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:45 PM   #36
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Both of these men have faced quality opposition for their last 5

Ward: Froch/Dawson/Bika/Abraham/Green
Sergio: Chavez/Dzin/Barker/Williams/Macklin

I gotta say Ward but I can see people making a case for Sergio
its hard to call you could say barker isnt good but neither is green
then undersized Dzin could be the same as bring dawson down in weight
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:48 PM   #37
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i think their resumes are about even the difference would be that Martinez has ko'd some of his opponents
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:35 PM   #38
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No way is Roman ahead of Anselmo Moreno dude.

Gonzalez has nowhere near the accomplishments/victories as Morneo.
You know what your right i completely forgot about him. I used to preach him big but he just slipped my mind! Thank you for thw reminder
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:05 PM   #39
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Ward beat a drained dawson, one full division south. I didn't exactly see you guys give credit when pac did it to dela hoya (also one division south)

Also, martinez beat a big middleweight in chavez jr. He's limited but he's big. Now, what makes it different from pac beating margarito and clottey? And i answer, they are both more proven than chavez jr.. And if i remember it correctly, pac was accussed of cherry picking both of them and martinez should move above with this shit

Hell no
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:08 PM   #40
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Ward just treated Dawson like a 13yr old boy in the ring. Ward is no doubt #2 P4P. I wouldn't hate on somebody even putting him at #1
You have got to be mother****ing kidding me!

Dela hoya moves down one weight division, and pac was cursed to hell.

Dawson did it too.. Now ward is taking credit

Horseshit mate, horseshit!
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:11 PM   #41
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Has to be Sergio he is willing to go up and down in weight to PROVE his P4P status while Ward wants to fight everyone in Oakland at his weightclass
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:26 PM   #42
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mayweather
ward
martinez
pacquiao
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:52 PM   #43
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man floyd ain't active enough to warrant the number 1 spot no more, andre ward has the best resume in the sport right now and he's nowhere near his peak ability.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:19 PM   #44
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Floyd (still on top)
Marquez (beat Pac)
Martinez (big W over Chavez)
Ward (consistent champ)
Pacquiao (1-1 in last 2 bouts)


The rest.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:25 PM   #45
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Zab will be on this list soon.
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