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Old 09-21-2012, 03:27 PM   #46
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Floyd (still on top)
Marquez (beat Pac)
Martinez (big W over Chavez)
Ward (consistent champ)
Pacquiao (1-1 in last 2 bouts)


The rest.
Money
Maravilla
Marquez
Ward
Pacquiao



Ward will eventually be on top, and for quite a while.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:31 PM   #47
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Money
Maravilla
Marquez
Ward
Pacquiao



Ward will eventually be on top, and for quite a while.
I agree with this too . I'd have put Ward ahead had he beaten Bute instead of Frochy doing the deed but he'll have to deal with that later
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:33 PM   #48
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**** me, look how old our top 5 is ! Ward is the only one 27 and under
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:34 PM   #49
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Seriously, Pac wouldve made short work of Junior, but Martinez cant. Their ranks should be miles apart.
Fixed xo
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:41 PM   #50
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**** me, look how old our top 5 is ! Ward is the only one 27 and under
Pointed this out several times recently. Very Old.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:45 PM   #51
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Martinez, Ward fought a corpse
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:47 PM   #52
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Pointed this out several times recently. Very Old.
Wlad, Vit, Marquez, Mayweather, Pac, Martinez.

60% of the top 10 is 35+
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:47 PM   #53
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Wlad, Vit, Marquez, Mayweather, Pac, Martinez.

60% of the top 10 is 35+
They're Warriors.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:49 PM   #54
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Pac
Ward
Mayweather
Martinez
Klit 1
Klit 2
Donaire
Marquez
Froch
Cotto
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:50 PM   #55
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They're Warriors.
Just goes to show how messed up the new generation is.

Mayweather and Marquez were on the same card as a 130 lber and a 126 lb titlists 13 years ago.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:53 PM   #56
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Just goes to show how messed up the new generation is.

Mayweather and Marquez were on the same card as a 130 lber and a 126 lb titlists 13 years ago.



What's funny is that most of them will retire from the sport with their current positions intact.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:57 PM   #57
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For me It's..

1. Ward
2. Pacquiao
3. Martinez
4. Wlad K.
5. Mayweather
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:12 PM   #58
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What's funny is that most of them will retire from the sport with their current positions intact.
Yup. No more passing the torch
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:14 PM   #59
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For me It's..

1. Ward
2. Pacquiao
3. Martinez
4. Wlad K.
5. Mayweather
Sick a duck sluggles.
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:29 PM   #60
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Ward beat a drained dawson, one full division south. I didn't exactly see you guys give credit when pac did it to dela hoya (also one division south)

Also, martinez beat a big middleweight in chavez jr. He's limited but he's big. Now, what makes it different from pac beating margarito and clottey? And i answer, they are both more proven than chavez jr.. And if i remember it correctly, pac was accussed of cherry picking both of them and martinez should move above with this shit

Hell no
That's ridiculous. I'm not giving mounds of credit to a guy just because his opponent was big. That's exactly the reason why Pacquiao would fight Martinez at the same weight he did Margarito.

That being said, I can't put Ward #1 p4p. Not when there are fighters who have belts in multiple divisions. Martinez and Ward's recent resumes are neck and neck at this point. Putting one over the other is just opinion. Ward has a stake in the argument because of skillset and strength of competion (anyone denying that is just hating at this point). And an argument could be made for Marquez and Martinez at #2. But like I said. It's all opinioned based.

I will say this, Floyd's #1 cred is getting stale quickly.
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