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Old 09-26-2012, 12:12 PM   #39541
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Ok that is one source. Go check the fan poll on HBO the following week.

12% scored it for Manny. LMFAO Pac****s don't get that there are better sources out there.

No matter how you look at it Manny is 1-1 in his last 2.

Officially beat Marquez (3) and lost to Bradley.

Unofficially lost to Marquez (3) and beat Bradley.

Either way he 1-1.

Ok *****, 42% Draw - HBO Fan Poll - Pacquiao vs Marquez 3.

Max Kellerman, HBO: 114-114 Draw
Larry Merchant, HBO: 114-114 Draw
Harold Lederman, HBO: 116-112 Pacquiao
Steve Marzolf, InsideHBOBoxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Bob Papa, HBO: 114-114 Draw


Either way it was a close fight. You can score it for Marquez.. but Pacquiao won officially and that fight wasn't even a robbery like Pacquiao vs Bradley.

2011 Robbery of the year -

Yahoo.com - Paul Williams vs Erislandy Lara.
Boxing Scene.com - Paul Williams vs Erislandy Lara.
Bleacher Report.com - Paul Williams vs Erislandy Lara.
Proboxing-fans.com - Paul Williams vs Erislandy Lara.

***************** - Paul Williams vs Erislandy Lara.
Yardbarker.com - Paul Williams vs Erislandy Lara.
Fightclubwriter.com - Paul Williams vs Erislandy Lara.




As for the Pacquiao vs Bradley fight...

Everyone Knows that Pacquiao won against Bradley. (Not as close as the Pacquiao vs Marquez 3 Fight)

HBO poll shows 91% believe Pacman beat Bradley
and 2% draw.

The Ring & Boxing Scene still has Pacquiao at # 1 Welterweight.


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Old 09-26-2012, 12:17 PM   #39542
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so how long does floyd needs to replenish his lost muscles? 50 was negotiating for a pac fight early next year but floyd needs more time.
I don't know, how long does a cut take to heal?
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:18 PM   #39543
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Now compare the Marquez vs Pacquiao unofficial scorecards to the Bradley vs Pacquiao unofficial scorecards.

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Danny Flexen, Boxing News: 115-113 Bradley
Cameron Sharpe, Boxing Fancast: 115-115 Draw
Chris Manix, Sports Illustrated: 115-113 Pacquiao
Lem Satterfield, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
Gordon Marino, The Wall Street Journal: 115-113 Pacquiao
Armando Alvarez, Telemundo: 115-113 Pacquiao
Jake Donovan, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Terry Dooley, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Jordan Capobianco, BoxingNews24.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Franklin McNeil, Newark Star-Ledger: 116-112 Pacquiao
Brett Okamoto, ESPN: 116-112 Pacquiao
Steve Bunce, BoxNation.com/BBC: 116-112 Pacquiao
Juan Manuel Marquez: 116-112 Pacquiao
Max Kellerman, HBO: 116-112 Pacquiao
Andreas Hale, FightNews.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Brian Arman Graham, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Pacquiao
George Willis, The New York Post: 116-112 Pacquiao
Rick Reeno, ***********.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: 116-112 Pacquiao
Ben Thompson, FightHype.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Tim Smith, New York Daily News: 116-112 Pacquiao
Suge Green, On the Grind Boxing Radio: 116-112 Pacquiao
Steve Zemach, The Queensbury Rules.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Michael Nelson, TheCruelestSport.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Tom Gray, SecondsOut.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Joel Sebastionelli, LIITR Box Radio: 116-112 Pacquiao
CheckHook.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
********************: 116-112 Pacquiao
Ricky Hatton: 116-112 Pacquiao
Wayne McCullough: 116-112 Pacquiao
Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Alexander Belenky, Sport-Express.ru: 116-112 Pacquiao
Rob Day, ***************: 117-112 Pacquiao
Ryan Burton, ***********.com: 117-112 Pacquiao
Matt Youmans, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
Graham Houston, FightWriter.com/FightNews.com/ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
Stephen Edwards, BoxingTalk.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Kieran Mulvaney, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 117-111 Pacquiao
Ron Borges, Boston Herald: 117-111 Pacquiao
Cliff Rold, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Chris Robinson, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
Ronnie Shields, boxing trainer: 117-111 Pacquiao
David Mayo, The Grand Rapids Press: 117-111 Pacquiao
Robert Little, BlackSportsOnline.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Jorge Hernandez, The Low Blow.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
David Greisman, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Benny Henderson, DogHouseBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Ryan Phillips, BleacherReport.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Graham Parker, The Guardian (UK): 117-111 Pacquiao
Ed Graney, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
Luis Sandoval, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Jonathan Sakti, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
Richie Tomasini, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
Tim Starks, The Queensbury Rules: 117-111 Pacquiao
Champ Ross, DaTruthBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 117-111 Pacquiao
Darren Velasco, 8CountNews.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Ryan Maquinana, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
George Diaz, The Orlando Sentinel: 117-111 Pacquiao
Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 117-111 Pacquiao
FightersRated.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Luke Thomas, MMAFighting.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 117-111 Pacquiao
Tommy Gunn, *****************: 117-111 Pacquiao
Charles Farrell, No Holds Barred Radio Show: 117-111 Pacquiao
Gareth Davies, London Telegraph: 117-111 Pacquiao
John Perretti, No Holds Barred Radio Show: 117-111 Pacquiao
John Raspanti, DogHouseBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Ron Lewis, Primetime/BBC: 117-111 Pacquiao
Brent Brookhouse, SBNation.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Jake Emen, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Alexey Sukachev, Sports.ru: 117-111 Pacquiao
Kevin Mitchell, The Guardian (UK): 118-112 Pacquiao
Steve Lillis, BoxNation: 118-111 Pacquiao
Nick Xouris, FightHype.com: 118-111 Pacquiao
Brett Newton, Pound4Pound.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Joseph Herron, FightSaga.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Mark Lyons, 8CountNews.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Danny "Swift" Garcia: 118-110 Pacquiao
Mike Koppinger, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Ryan Songalia, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
Robert Ecksel, Boxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Pete O'Brien, USA Today: 118-110 Pacquiao
John McCormick, BoxingTalk.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Victor Contreras, The Sacramento Bee: 118-110 Pacquiao
Eric Raskin, HBO/TheSweetScience.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Chuck Giampa, Showtime: 118-110 Pacquiao
John Russell, boxing trainer (Buster Douglas trainer): 118-110 Pacquiao
Rich Marotta, KFI Los Angeles: 118-110 Pacquiao
Jeff Mayweather: 118-110 Pacquiao
Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Kelsey McCarson, TheSweetScience.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Mario Cabrera, The Boxing Republic: 118-110 Pacquiao
Ramon Aranda, 3MoreRounds.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Colin Seymour, Examiner.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Nigel Collins, Espn.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Paddy Cronan, On the Grind Boxing Radio: 118-110 Pacquiao
Denzil Stone, OnTheBreak.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Phil Jay, WorldBoxingNews.net: 118-110 Pacquiao
Geoffrey Ciani, EastSideBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Michael Rosenthal, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
Eugeny Pilipenko, Vringe.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Vadim Zhuk, Championat.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Ken Pollitt, the13thround.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Ted Sares, Boxing.com: 119-111 Pacquiao
Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 119-110 Pacquiao
Barry Tompkins, Showtime: 119-110 Pacquiao
Vittorio Tafur, The San Francisco Chronicle: 119-109 Pacquiao
Ray Markarian, TheSweetScience.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
Harold Lederman, HBO: 119-109 Pacquiao
Dan Rafael, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
Max Parker, BoxingWatchers.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
Scott Sawitz, Fox Sports/Inside Fights: 119-109 Pacquiao
Leroy Cleveland, FightSaga.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
Michael Woods, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
Michael Marley, BoxingConfidential.com/Examiner.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
Skip Bayless, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
Among the experts above, 120 scored the bout for Pacquiao, 1 scored the bout a draw, and 1 scored the bout for Bradley.
None of the scores for Pacquiao was offered by Philippine media.
The draw score and the score for Bradley were not provided by American media.



Now surely you can see how one is a clear robbery and the other a closely contested fight that could have gone either way.
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:53 PM   #39544
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We shall see what happens in the next couple of weeks, I wouldn't be surprised if Mayweather sr accuses Pacquiao again.

Even though, lets say if this fight does happen mid next year, it has lost it's hype.
If Sr. or Roger **** up....it shouldn't have any affect on Floyd. He can't be responsible for some loose cannons.
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:55 PM   #39545
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Pacquiao looked good against a Younger, Prime & Undefeated Timothy Bradley with MOST Boxing websites, writers & fans have it for Pacquiao.

That's why The Ring, Boxing Scene still has Pacquiao at #1 at Welterweight.
Only to try to save a fight that isn't going to draw much. This fight only does 800K PPV buys. The official numbers wont be released like the rest. And Manny yet again is going to look like ****.
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:56 PM   #39546
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Pacquiao is embarrassing me to be a boxing fan. Now all the casual fans are going to see this *****ass nicca over hear suing his opponents because they hurt his feelings.

When Rachman called Lewis a ***, Lewis fought him in the lead up to the fight and knocked him out during the fight
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:57 PM   #39547
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gowagaya7 is here.

the void machine ****riders are here.
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:59 PM   #39548
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Pacquiao is embarrassing me to be a boxing fan. Now all the casual fans are going to see this *****ass nicca over hear suing his opponents because they hurt his feelings.

When Rachman called Lewis a ***, Lewis fought him in the lead up to the fight and knocked him out during the fight
so you hate a person who uses the legal remedies provided in a civilized society yet idolize a guard poking, wife beating, ex con.

i knew it. void fans are degenerates.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:00 PM   #39549
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Pacquiao is embarrassing me to be a boxing fan. Now all the casual fans are going to see this *****ass nicca over hear suing his opponents because they hurt his feelings.

When Rachman called Lewis a ***, Lewis fought him in the lead up to the fight and knocked him out during the fight
This.

Floyd said Mosley was on steroids during 24/7. What did Mosley do? Tried to knock his head off.

Ali called Frazier all sorts of ****. Did Frazier sue?

Leonard said Hearns had to have been on steroids. Hearns agreed to stronger testing instead of suing.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:04 PM   #39550
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Whoa, Most of them had it for Pacquiao.

Among the experts above, 120 scored the bout for Pacquiao, 1 scored the bout a draw, and 1 scored the bout for Bradley.
Yes a huge robbery.

If you don't think Pacquiao won that fight, you don't know boxing.

Pacquiao won very comfortably too.

It is funny how some people can suggest this fight is similar to the Marquez fight.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:07 PM   #39551
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Really don't see the big deal, the whole episode was pointless. Floyd didn't even bother turn up to court to busy betting on football games to give a damn about pac's lawsuit.


As for the apology another pointless gesture as floyd in several interviews has already said he didn't say pac was on PEDS and that pac is a great fighter, whilst also suggesting in other interviews pac is on PEDS and is a cheat.

So no need to get excited about this gesture it's a very empty one at best.
Unfortunately a gesture like this one is never "empty" per say. Even if it was "FORCED".....the fact is the OTHER option of NOT agreeing to the settlement and disregard the "TERMS" would be far less appealing for Floyd and his clan.

So even if he didn't mean it....it really doesn't matter because he's admitting wrong to the world. After all the accusations and allegations he never backed up coming forward and "making right" in the eye of the public is really all that matters. That's not an easy thing to do and a tough pill to swallow. There are always consequences for men when making mistakes. Even if it's just by spreading a "white lie" about another man.

Live and learn.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:08 PM   #39552
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Not people who agree with me, but by independent boxing writers, pundits, trainers and current and ex boxers

Here is the list





Are you telling me it was not a close fight?
It was a close fight. Many bundits said Mayweather won the first fight with Castillo, but that doesn't make it true. It's better to watch the fight for yourself. I watched the Castillo fight countless times and I can't give Mayweather more than 5 rounds. Just like I can't give Pacquiao more than 5 rounds in the Marquez fight.

If you can then fair enough. I'd like to know which rounds you have him winning. But my point is, just because a pundit says something doesn't mean that they are incapable of being biased.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:09 PM   #39553
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Pacquiao is embarrassing me to be a boxing fan. Now all the casual fans are going to see this *****ass nicca over hear suing his opponents because they hurt his feelings.

When Rachman called Lewis a ***, Lewis fought him in the lead up to the fight and knocked him out during the fight
Defamation of character?

Floyd broke the law.

And when you make mistakes you have to pay.


How I start spreading rumours about you, that you like touching little boys, and go round saying that I know you do, say this on national TV and get other people believing it too.

Even though I just made it up and have zero evidence, wouldn't you feel a little aggrieved?

And if it affected your income, how people viewed you, people will ask you about it and doubt you.

Would you use the law of the land to put things right?
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This.

Floyd said Mosley was on steroids during 24/7. What did Mosley do? Tried to knock his head off.

Ali called Frazier all sorts of ****. Did Frazier sue?

Leonard said Hearns had to have been on steroids. Hearns agreed to stronger testing instead of suing.
Mosley did take steroids
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I don't know, how long does a cut take to heal?


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