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Old 09-26-2012, 09:10 AM   #1696
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Lewis was the much better fighter. The problem was Vitali thought he could knock Lewis out with one punch. But after he realized Lewis can take his punches, the situation was difficult for him. Vitali had not real fight plan. Again bad corner work from his coach Sdunek, instead of telling Vitali to try to knock Lewis out after Vitali was cut, Vitali tries to box with Lewis. Lewis was to clever for this and all the clinching from Vitali makes himself tired.

Emanuel Steward said before the fight, Vitali will not step back and this will be the reason he will lose. Steward was right, the weight of Lewis tired Vitali up. This shows Lewis could change his plan after 6 rounds Vitali was done. Lewis would have knock him out in the 7the round.

The stoppage was legal. If not, Vitali would have lost his eye or health.

The doctor made the right decision.
The doctor did make the right decision...saving Vitali from himself...no way he quits after the Byrd debacle...but similarly, if the fight continued he may have forfeited the rest of his career with permanent injury

I agree with Vitali not having a plan B....this was a brawl...that is what makes it such a good fight....doubt he gets KO'd in the 7th though

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You are missing the point. The decision after stoppage was wrong. The cut was caused by thumbing and the outcome should have been TD6 for Vitali according to the rules.
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has nothing to do with TKO6....regardless, your statement is false

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Old 09-26-2012, 10:20 AM   #1697
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You are missing the point. The decision after stoppage was wrong. The cut was caused by thumbing and the outcome should have been TD6 for Vitali according to the rules.
Not one cut! Vitali has several cuts in his face and not thumb there. Legal punches from Lewis caused several cuts!

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I agree with Vitali not having a plan B....this was a brawl...that is what makes it such a good fight....doubt he gets KO'd in the 7th though
Where do you saw a brawl? I saw Vitali was good in round 1 and 2. But after he realized he could not knock out Lewis with his punches, he hang on Lewis. After round 3 he tries but not hard, he hang on for dear life.

The brawl was seen by the HBO crew maybe who wants Lewis to loose. At this time the public did not like Lewis and they make more of this fight than the fight was.

The "best" Vitali shows was when the fight was stopped.

If he had a good coach in his corner, this coach would have told him to try to knock Lewis out in round 4. But it was not so easy as Vitali and his so called boxing trainer Sdunek thought. Lewis knows all the tricks and could survive (like Wlad today, because of Emanuel Steward) and Vitali has not the one-punch-power to knock Lennox Lewis out and Vitali has not the boxing skills to outbox Lennox Lewis.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:56 AM   #1698
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Where do you saw a brawl? I saw Vitali was good in round 1 and 2. But after he realized he could not knock out Lewis with his punches, he hang on Lewis. After round 3 he tries but not hard, he hang on for dear life.

The brawl was seen by the HBO crew maybe who wants Lewis to loose. At this time the public did not like Lewis and they make more of this fight than the fight was..
Eh...I think VK had some success in rounds 4 and 5; and he certainly won at least one of those rounds. Lewis then swung the momentum back in his direction again in the sixth, enjoying by far his best round of the fight in the process.

VK's attempt to right the ship wasn't as dramatic as LL's rallies, but he still was very much in the fight after five. If we go to round seven, it's likely that he would have attempted to make at least one more stand at any rate, because there's nothing to suggest that the punishment that Vitali sustained in the sixth would cause the already-established dynamic of the fight to deviate in any way.

Without the cut, I think it was just going to come down to how many times Vitali would be able to come back from those rallies, and how many rounds he could put in the bank, before control of the fight slipped away...

With the cut, it was going to be a matter of time, since both fighters seemed incapable of delivering the final blow needed to put the other way away for good.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:12 AM   #1699
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Eh...I think VK had some success in rounds 4 and 5; and he certainly won at least one of those rounds. Lewis then swung the momentum back in his direction again in the sixth, enjoying by far his best round of the fight in the process.

VK's attempt to right the ship wasn't as dramatic as LL's rallies, but he still was very much in the fight after five. If we go to round seven, it's likely that he would have attempted to make at least one more stand at any rate, because there's nothing to suggest that the punishment that Vitali sustained in the sixth would cause the already-established dynamic of the fight to deviate in any way.

Without the cut, I think it was just going to come down to how many times Vitali would be able to come back from those rallies, and how many rounds he could put in the bank, before control of the fight slipped away...

With the cut, it was going to be a matter of time, since both fighters seemed incapable of delivering the final blow needed to put the other way away for good.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:59 AM   #1700
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You are missing the point. The decision after stoppage was wrong. The cut was caused by thumbing and the outcome should have been TD6 for Vitali according to the rules.
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Old 09-26-2012, 03:57 PM   #1701
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All the speculation in the world can't bury the fact of TKO6
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:33 PM   #1702
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Default Has Vitali lost the right to talk about lewis retiring?

He always goes on about Lewis saying "fight Johnson, I'll fight the winner"

Like literally he's never shut up about it in 13 years

But vitali and boente said to Haye "fight Chisora, I'll fight the winner"

They didn't think Haye would call their bluff and they certainly didn't think he'd blast Chisora out the way he did
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:35 PM   #1703
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If he retires, sure.
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:58 PM   #1704
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keep making stuff up bri****



BTW Vitali vs Kirk was a eliminator for a mando unlike half legal Haye Chisora
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Old 09-26-2012, 05:31 PM   #1705
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Old 09-26-2012, 06:02 PM   #1706
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You are missing the point. The decision after stoppage was wrong. The cut was caused by thumbing and the outcome should have been TD6 for Vitali according to the rules.
Explain when thumbing caused the cut. Give me the exact second in the exact round that the exact strike(es) thrown resulted in a cut from an incident of "thumbing" obvious enough to deem a foul (whether accidental or flagrant, whatever) and not a legal blow.

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Old 09-26-2012, 08:34 PM   #1707
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That uppercut still sends chills down me every time.

STILL...

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Old 09-26-2012, 10:36 PM   #1708
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And another one finds its way home.......
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:37 PM   #1709
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:14 AM   #1710
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Explain when thumbing caused the cut. Give me the exact second in the exact round that the exact strike(es) thrown resulted in a cut from an incident of "thumbing" obvious enough to deem a foul (whether accidental or flagrant, whatever) and not a legal blow.

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