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Old 09-28-2012, 12:53 PM   #2476
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watching fights takes much more time than gathering many relevant facts about d fights .

And how do u judge a fighter when u lack 1 , if not some , if not all of his fights that matter ?

by watching him destroy a drained borderline bum whose claim 2 gr8ness is based on decisioning another over8ed fighter whom just happnened 2b a smaller midget and drained as well whose main claim 2 fame was decisioning 2ice another over8ed serial hometown fighter whom just accidentally happened 2b drained in those 2 occasions and fighting in d other man's backyard and even then at least 1 of those verdicts is dubious .

2nd red :
my knowledge of d sport and my opinions r clearer , more consistent and much more based on facts and correct than yours .

And it is very much possible that we have both seen about d same amount of fights by now , with myself repeating a major part of them 2 up 2 5 times .



1st i judge , then i verify my judgement by watching unless d verdict is just 2 clear , strong and obvious .

i already replied about how powerful and useful tool boxrec is 4 me , even at vbetting on fighters that i never watched even 4a sec .

RJ is some1 whom 1 might get impressed by watching him fight , .. ,

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unless that 1 has a functioning brain and is aware that Jones' opponents were dead by d time that he fought them .
and usually also severely undersized .

boxrec usually tells 1 about these things , believe it or not .

Even those whom quickly destroyed him were past their prime .
1 of which was in fact drug abused and older than Jones still , and d other was of d same age and past more punishment than Jones himself due2"stylez" .
I'm not saying don't use boxrec, it's a handy tool. I use it for the prediction league I'm in.

So that's Olivares, Rose, Harada and Jofre you're dissing?

Your knowledge of the sport is based on statistics.

You don't know how far my knowledge of the sport goes.
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:14 PM   #2477
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I'm not saying don't use boxrec, it's a handy tool. I use it for the prediction league I'm in.

So that's Olivares, Rose, Harada and Jofre you're dissing?

Your knowledge of the sport is based on statistics.

You don't know how far my knowledge of the sport goes.
if u want any credibility , y do not u show it by playing with d nice vBookie system ? like your friend Feme did ?

my knowledge of d sport is based on highly detailed statistics , linked 2 each other , backed up / solidified by hundreds of fights watched about 1/3-1/2 of which repeated 2-5 times .

Jofre rarely per4med under d effects of jet lag , etc . His opponents did , however .

I doubt his #1 spot in my list .
but yes , I dissed them all .
U never convinced me y they were better than Lujan , Vazquez , (Gaby) Canizales , Raul Perez .

And u defin8ly follow d sport 4 a much longer period than i do , and keep sticking 2 heroes based on hero worshipping .

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Old 09-28-2012, 03:07 PM   #2478
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Lujan, Vasquez, Canizalez and Perez all boxed in my lifetime as well you know and were all very good fighters.

Statistics are part of the game as you say, but they don't always tell the whole story.
Fighting away from home, I agree with you, it makes a big difference but Jofre did box on the road as did Rose (how someone who knows boxing can call him a borderline bum I'll never know), Harada not so much.
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Old 09-28-2012, 08:22 PM   #2479
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139. HECTOR CAMACHO 49 | 44 LOUIS BURKE (TKO 5 CAMACHO)

HMC vs JB
10-9
10-8
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Old 09-29-2012, 03:48 AM   #2480
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140. HECTOR CAMACHO 120 | 107 JOSE LUIS RAMIREZ

HMC vs JLR
10-9
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10-9
10-9
10-9
10-9
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A total shutout and picture perfect performance, from Camacho! He took a really good fighter to school in Ramirez, to the point where the seated champion didn't even look like he belonged in the same ring with Hector.
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Old 09-29-2012, 05:53 AM   #2481
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Lujan, Vasquez, Canizalez and Perez all boxed in my lifetime as well you know and were all very good fighters.
so what makes Jofre , Olivares , Harada , Rose better than them ? or gr8er ? or anything ?

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Statistics are part of the game as you say, but they don't always tell the whole story.
Fighting away from home, I agree with you, it makes a big difference but Jofre did box on the road as did Rose (how someone who knows boxing can call him a borderline bum I'll never know), Harada not so much.
Who did Jofre fight away from home ? 7 times overall he lost 2 decisions 2 Harada . He has 1 possibly big win away from home against Medel .
But Medel also gets over8ed and in fact was shakier and less consistent than Vazquez 4 example .
Medel probably was good but gets over8ed .

all based on d ignored fact that d 118 title switched hands in a descending order of quality from Jofre 2 Harada 2 Rose (probably 118's all time low) and then Olivares was a step up but due 2 big rise from d obscene depth gets over8ed . But even Olivares won d title from n extremely drained fighter whom even was d weakest link in d not so strong even otherwise chain .

Bernardo Caraballo lost all of his big outings by KO .

Maybe except 1 which he either still lost / won by decision or just 1 out of 6 that he had something going his way if that 1 time happened at all .
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Old 09-29-2012, 07:33 AM   #2482
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It's 118lbs' alltime high ya' mong!
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Old 09-29-2012, 07:45 AM   #2483
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Jofre > Harada > Rose <<<< Olivares < Herera < Castillo

also , Zarate >>> Rose , Chandler >>>> Rose

Lujan ~ Jofre

Darchiniyan , Moreno ~ Zarate

Canizales ~ Perez ~ Vazquez > Every1 except Lujan and maybe Jofre

which makes Rose just what i claimed it 2b , n OT low .
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Old 09-29-2012, 08:43 AM   #2484
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You have no clue about anything.
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Old 09-29-2012, 08:57 AM   #2485
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No , u r a pathetic mentalist whom thinks that he knows anything due 2 watching more irrelevant fights than i did , and your minimal vcash just reflects exactly on your knowledge of d sport as well as other cognitive (in)capabilities .

And after all d years , u r also still ignorant .
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Old 09-30-2012, 02:51 AM   #2486
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Naseem Hamed TKO7 Wilfredo Vazquez

a gr8 per4mance 4 a 38 years old , remember that d gape between them is bigger than Jones' with McCallum .

Hamed scored a KD in rd 3 and about 2 in rd 7 although i think that d 1st in rd 7 was aided by n elbow / 4arm .

Vazquez may have a claim 4 a technical KD in rd 5 .

D British broadcast censored it but Hamed's back touched d ropes heavily in rd 5 after taking another straight punch from Vazquez .

Vazquez connected in nearly every rd , sometimes more than 1ce , and i mean with power punches .

There was also a break during 1 of d rds , rd 6 maybe which was caused by a very loose 2nd from d top rope which was removed and during that break Frank War_ren "talked technique" with Hamed .

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Old 09-30-2012, 07:26 AM   #2487
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Mayweather - Castillo 1. First time I have watched the fight in full, so much contraversy about it so not a bad one to enter this thread with, even if it has probably been debated a million times. Anyway here's my scorecard -

Mayweather 10-9 Castillo Rd 1
Mayweather 10-9 Castillo Rd 2
Mayweather 10-9 Castillo Rd 3
Mayweather 9-10 Castillo Rd 4
Mayweather 9-10 Castillo Rd 5
Mayweather 9-10 Castillo Rd 6
Mayweather 9-10 Castillo Rd 7
Mayweather 9-9 Castillo Rd 8
Mayweather 9-10 Castillo Rd 9
Mayweather 9-9 Castillo Rd 10
Mayweather 9-10 Castillo Rd 11
Mayweather 9-10 Castillo Rd 12


Castillo 115-111 Mayweather

It was a close fight, one or two very close/quite hard to score rounds e.g. rd. 4, but Castillo won on my card.
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:23 AM   #2488
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NIGEL BENN VS CHRIS EUBANK I 76-75 EUBANK

NB vs CE
9-10
9-10
10-9
10-9
9-10
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Great fight!
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No , u r a pathetic mentalist whom thinks that he knows anything due 2 watching more irrelevant fights than i did , and your minimal vcash just reflects exactly on your knowledge of d sport as well as other cognitive (in)capabilities .

And after all d years , u r also still ignorant .
You can spell. You speak perfect English. Nothing you spout is true. You're a well conceived and executed character/troll and I commend the time and dedication you've put into it.
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Old 09-30-2012, 02:31 PM   #2490
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Naseem Hamed TKO4 Kevin Kelley

multiple KDs , officially 3 each , but i believe that Hamed was actually down 5 times .

gr8 fight .

As usual with Hamed , his off balance style , defense and head movement made it seem like he was hurt more than he was while in fact it saved him from getting hurt more .

Hamed was gr8 @ dismantling aging fighters , but he never tried 2 prove himself while even nearly on d slide due 2 retiring in his prime after losing a decision 2 Barera without being floored or seriously hurt in d fight .

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