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Old 09-30-2012, 04:28 PM   #2491
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Daorung Chuvatana TKO1 John Michael Johnson

It was in Thailand and due 2 a cut which was caused by a headbutt .

makes me wonder Y was he kept on low profile afterwards .
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:09 PM   #2492
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Sugar Ray Leonard vs Marvin Hagler.

Sugar Ray Leonard 10-9 Marvin Hagler Rd. 1
Sugar Ray Leonard 10-9 Marvin Hagler Rd. 2
Sugar Ray Leonard 10-9 Marvin Hagler Rd. 3
Sugar Ray Leonard 10-9 Marvin Hagler Rd. 4
Sugar Ray Leonard 9-10 Marvin Hagler Rd. 5
Sugar Ray Leonard 10-9 Marvin Hagler Rd. 6
Sugar Ray Leonard 9-10 Marvin Hagler Rd. 7
Sugar Ray Leonard 9-10 Marvin Hagler Rd. 8
Sugar Ray Leonard 10-10 Marvin Hagler Rd. 9
Sugar Ray Leonard 10-9 Marvin Hagler Rd. 10
Sugar Ray Leonard 10-9 Marvin Hagler Rd. 11
Sugar Ray Leonard 9-10 Marvin Hagler Rd. 12

Sugar Ray Leonard 116-113 Marvin Hagler
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Old 10-01-2012, 02:05 AM   #2493
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Bobby Chacon TKO9 Danny Lopez

Chacon won every or almost every rd .
He made Lopez miss with most of his punches and repeatedly tagged him .
Lopez made Chacon look impressive

I know that neither man sucked horribly , but 4 a realistic view on Chacon u have his 1st 2 fights against Olivares .
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Old 10-01-2012, 02:34 AM   #2494
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HECTOR CAMACHO 115 | 113 EDWIN ROSARIO

HMC vs ER
10-9
10-9
9-10
9-10
9-10
10-9
10-9
10-9
10-9
10-9
9-10
9-10

Very good fight with the right man winning imo.
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Old 10-01-2012, 02:39 AM   #2495
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Junior Jones KO/TKO5 Marco Antonio Barera , transl8ed 2 DQ5 on record .

Very competitive and a good fight until Jones KDd Barera near d end of rd 5 and then battered him near d ropes just b4 d end of d rd .

Due 2d fast pace , i was not aware of d possible low blows by Barera and maybe by Jones as well . Also it is possible that Jones butted Barera and cut him by doing it .
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Old 10-01-2012, 03:30 AM   #2496
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Old 10-01-2012, 05:03 AM   #2497
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MARVIN HAGLER 116 | 113 RAY LEONARD

MMH vs SRL
9-10
9-10
10-9
10-9
10-9
9-10
10-9
10-9
10-9
10-9
9-10
10-10

Still to this day, THE finest job of anybody convincing the crowd, which in turn I can only assume convinced the judges he was winning. With all his flash and showboating, using his hand speed to mystify everyone into thinking this was not only a close fight, but that he won....The only rounds he won without question were the first 2 Hagler was fighting orthodox in, and the 6th. The rest was Leonard pulling the wool over the judges eyes. Marvin won 7 rounds convincingly, with the last round being even, despite all the running and showboating in the final round by Ray, he barley did enough actual work to make that round even. Just a despicable outcome, in which Hagler was truly robbed by a total acting job, and I really can't blame him for walking away forever after such a total betrayal.

Still aggravates the shit out of me to this day, 7 rounds too 4 with 1 even, or 116-113 Marvelous Marvin Hagler.
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MARVIN HAGLER 116 | 113 RAY LEONARD

MMH vs SRL
9-10
9-10
10-9
10-9
10-9
9-10
10-9
10-9
10-9
10-9
9-10
10-10

Still to this day, THE finest job of anybody convincing the crowd, which in turn I can only assume convinced the judges he was winning. With all his flash and showboating, using his hand speed to mystify everyone into thinking this was not only a close fight, but that he won....The only rounds he won without question were the first 2 Hagler was fighting orthodox in, and the 6th. The rest was Leonard pulling the wool over the judges eyes. Marvin won 7 rounds convincingly, with the last round being even, despite all the running and showboating in the final round by Ray, he barley did enough actual work to make that round even. Just a despicable outcome, in which Hagler was truly robbed by a total acting job, and I really can't blame him for walking away forever after such a total betrayal.

Still aggravates the shit out of me to this day, 7 rounds too 4 with 1 even, or 116-113 Marvelous Marvin Hagler.
I can see how you scored it like that, some rounds were very close. The showboating must have had an effect on the judge that scored it 118-110 (poor card). Personally I think Leonard did land a lot and coped reasonably well with Hagler's onslought for much of the fight. Hagler had trouble finding him and couldn't get him on the ropes enough in the first half. Rounds 3 and 4 were close and probably ended up the difference on mine and your card.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:04 AM   #2499
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Junior Jones UD12 Marco Antonio Barera (Junior Jones vs Marco Antonio Barera #2)

Jones won rds 1,7,8,10 which makes it a 120-116 in favor of Jones .

I did not love Lane's point deduction from Barera in contrast with mostly ignoring Jones' rabbit punching . Jones' fouling was more deliber8 and easier 2 notice .

Taking in2 account Lane's discrimination it becomes a 120-115 Jones .

Not a bad fight either .

Jones came in with cortisol injected 2 his right hand , and yet even more aged than in their 1st fight .

Barera still failed 2 capitalize .
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Roy Jones Jr vs James Toney

RJJ 10-9 Toney Rd 1
RJJ 10-9 Toney Rd 2
RJJ 10-8 Toney Rd 3
RJJ 10-9 Toney Rd 4
RJJ 10-9 Toney Rd 5
RJJ 10-9 Toney Rd 6
RJJ 10-9 Toney Rd 7
RJJ 10-9 Toney Rd 8
RJJ 9-10 Toney Rd 9
RJJ 9-10 Toney Rd 10
RJJ 10-9 Toney Rd 11
RJJ 10-9 Toney Rd 12

RJJ 118-110 Toney

Great performance by RJJ, poor one by Toney
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EMILE GRIFFITH v.s. BENNY PARET III 106-102 TKO 12 GRIFFITH

EG v.s. BKP
10-9
10-9
10-9
10-9
10-9
8-10
9-10
10-9
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I think you're giving Marv a bit too much credit there, mate. I honestly couldn't envision giving the Marvelous one seven rounds, as much as I love him. After scoring this bout I ended up with a 114-114 result. Dead even.

Hagler truly and utterly ****ed himself in the first couple of rounds by not doing enough work and turning orthodox. If he'd just fought his ass off from the start, it was very much a winnable fight.
I agree. I can see it 115-113 either way or a draw...but on recent viewings I find I give Ray the edge.

It hurts me to do it but just as I give lofty and IMO undeserved rankings I also have to admit that Ray Leonard defeated Marvin Hagler. Even if I don't particularly like the tactics he implemented. Under the rules of boxing, he won. Sorta'.
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Ray's output was flashier, quicker hands and making a show of it, triumphant return, I can see why it was scored in his favour. EDIT: In no way do I think something was up with the judges or scorecards. Not a robbery or anything like it, Leonard won.

It's the perfect narrative really unless you're a fan of Hagler, then it's painful.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:27 PM   #2505
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Amado Ursua KO2 Hilario Zapata

Pretty good pace to start the fight, in a manner that I didn't expect to see. Zapata was the one coming forward stalking his shorter foe and attempting to strafe him with combinations, and Ursua staying back and winging rights whenever an unusally aggressive Zapata got too close. Panterita did a good job of getting under Zapata's attacks in the first, and landed with a couple of glancing blows but Hilario starts to find his range in the last 30 seconds to so and lands just enough to take the round on my card. 10-9 Zapata

And then the second round begins and things go ****ing crazy.

Shortly after the round begins, Ursua catches Zapata coming in with a big right hand, and then a follow-up hook deposits him onto the seat of his trunks. Zapata rises, and Ursua rumbles forward, winging wide punches and looking for the finish. But it's Zapata who lands the big punch, dropping Ursua onto his haunches with a sweet hook for an uncredited KD. Ursua rises but is still hurt, and Zapata spends the 30-45 seconds beating him around the ring. Ursua lands another huge right, forcing Zapata to hold on , but Amada still appears to be in rough shape, especially after Zapata nails him with a nasty rabbit punch. Ursua backs up, and Zapata storms forward...only to run into a sick, sick right hand that drops him onto his back for the picturesque KO.

Stupid fight from Hilario, but it made for quite the spectacle, I must say. Round 2 of this fight gets added to my list of favorite stanzas of all time.
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