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He is a cheater, Mayweather, Sr is right; no way he can beat those guys. 34 11.60%
He is a cherrypicker. Those guys are easy to beat, no need for PEDs to do it. 29 9.90%
He is just a great fighter. As simple as that. End this ****in' thread. 230 78.50%
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Old 10-01-2012, 06:08 PM   #61
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You are getting stupid by the day, mate.

How can a cheater and a cherry picker be considered great, eh?
Mate, it's because your poll options suck, or just not clear enough. Lots of people think RJJ was all three. I'm sure there are several examples of a fighter being at least two of the options if not all three.

Pac is great fighter, but has cherrypicked and if its discovered he started using roids later in his career, then he can be considered all three.
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Old 10-01-2012, 06:26 PM   #62
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Below 135 he's great. Brilliant, all the wonderful thing that are right about Boxing.

Above 130 he's an example of how gullable the casual fan is, and how a master Promoter can build a phenomena via careful matchmaking and great timing.
this comment is rich, coming from a floyd fanboy.
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Old 10-01-2012, 06:31 PM   #63
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this comment is rich, coming from a floyd fanboy.
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Pretty sad for a 33 year old man, I'd imagine you're single.
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:06 PM   #64
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Pretty sad for a 33 year old man, I'd imagine you're single.
pretty sad for a 21 year old boy to rely on his parents for his cookies and milk.
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:09 PM   #65
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a bit of cherry picking put in with being a great. He cherrypicked hard above 130 in order to keep the gravy train rollin' for his Papa Arum.
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pretty sad for a 21 year old boy to rely on his parents for his cookies and milk.
Are you saying its sad for a 21 year old to be supported by his parents? Stupid if it is.
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:21 PM   #67
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Are you saying its sad for a 21 year old to be supported by his parents? Stupid if it is.
i understand college tuitions and maybe his rents. but for his foods? we are not even sure if the kid is in a university right now.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:02 PM   #68
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a bit of cherry picking put in with being a great. He cherrypicked hard above 130 in order to keep the gravy train rollin' for his Papa Arum.
Turbo who should he of fought above 130, and remember timeline and reaching 150 so you got 2.5 years.
Would appreciate your answer
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Turbo who should he of fought above 130, and remember timeline and reaching 150 so you got 2.5 years.
Would appreciate your answer
i await his answer too. this would be great!
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Manny is an elite boxer. Styles make fights and when you pair him against stationary fighters or fighters who can't follow or execute a gameplay he simply out works them and he breaks them down.
What Marquez did to Manny the last fight was embarrassing. He will always give Manny trouble because he is smart fighter. He keeps a good distance, faints and keeps Manny out of rhythm so much and PAC has no answer for it. The only thing Manny can do is desperately over extend and throw sloppy combos.
You pair Manny with a counter puncher who has good footwork, faints moves his head and Mannys brain shuts down.
Floyd would put on a boxing clinic vs Manny and this is coming from a guy who appreciates a talent like Manny is.
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Old 10-01-2012, 10:19 PM   #71
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a bit of cherry picking put in with being a great. He cherrypicked hard above 130 in order to keep the gravy train rollin' for his Papa Arum.

Who did he avoid?
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79% deal with it
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Who did he avoid?
any legit champ at 154.
cherrypicked diaz.
cherrypicked cotto, avoided mosley until he looked like ass.
ducked mayweather.
cherrypicked Marquez and got outboxed.
cherrypicked margarito in a sham of a fight for a paper belt
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any legit champ at 154.
cherrypicked diaz.
cherrypicked cotto, avoided mosley until he looked like ass.
ducked mayweather.
cherrypicked Marquez and got outboxed.
cherrypicked margarito in a sham of a fight for a paper belt
any legit champ at 154??? are you crazy???

manny's highest weigh in is only 144, fight night is only 148.

diaz was a tuneup for the higher weight.

if you can be objective with how it was during that time, cotto was the obvious choice from the beginning. snane never had a chance of landing that fight.

..you really can't name anybody he should have fought instead of who he fought.
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any legit champ at 154??? are you crazy???

manny's highest weigh in is only 144, fight night is only 148.

diaz was a tuneup for the higher weight.

if you can be objective with how it was during that time, cotto was the obvious choice from the beginning. snane never had a chance of landing that fight.

..you really can't name anybody he should have fought instead of who he fought.
He cherry picked everyone I listed. he had the power to make other fights happen but he took the easy road.
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