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Old 10-01-2012, 06:59 PM   #16
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He said nothing of the sort, and in fact said he regarded Cotto as the most proven Welterweight champion at the time. The only smack talk he actually said was that he felt he could beat Cotto and Cotto had better have trained hard for their fight or he'd regret it. I'll also point out that while Cotto likely would have won clearly anyway due to the two having similar styles but Cotto being way more athletic, Gomez came into the fight with a still broken hand and had a severe illness in the middle of his training camp that required him to be hospitalized for a few days, so he wasn't exactly one hundred percent for the fight.

As to the original post, I think Cotto's career wouldn't have been much different. Ultimately I suspect he would still have lost to Pacquiao and Mayweather but probably given a better account of himself in both those fights.
of couse he talked shit. he even recorded that song about cotto saying he would win. Cotto simp.ly said that he was prepared and wasnt gonna talk any mess. He never said COtto was the best WW he always would say Mayweather was. Damn man what did you do just make stuff up ? lol

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Exclusive Interview With Alfonso Gomez - "I Will Beat Miguel Cotto!"

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]30.01.08 - by James Slater: Mexican-American welterweight contender Alfonso Gomez was once known best as a star of the hugely popular Contender T.V [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. This is not the case anymore. After beating up modern-day legend Arturo Gatti in 7 largely one-sided rounds last July - in a fight that prompted "Thunder" to call it quits in his career - underdog Gomez was propelled onto the world stage and into the world rankings. Now, after adding a useful points win over the teak-tough Ben Tackie to his resume, the 27-year-old who lives in Whittier, California, is getting ready for the biggest fight of his life - an April 12th 'world' title fight with the superb Miguel Cotto. A big outsider in most eyes, Gomez, 18-3( feels he can prove the odds makers wrong once more.

Possessing plenty of heart and courage, the 5' 9" Gomez has rapidly become a fan-favourite with his exciting fighting style. Indeed, ever since leaving The Contender house, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] born in Guadalajara, Mexico has had more than a few fans claming he would one day capture a world title. Doing so, and fulfilling a life-long dream in the process, is now tantalizingly close for the popular Gomez.. His big chance could perhaps have come against a champion slightly less formidable than the mighty Cotto, but Alfonso says he is ready for the fight of his career, and is looking forward to a win.

Speaking to me over the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] from his home on January 29th, the approachable and friendly Gomez had the following answers to my questions.

James Slater: Firstly, Alfonso, you must be thrilled to be getting this fight with Cotto?

Alfonso Gomez: Oh, absolutely. It's a dream come true for me. I always knew it would happen, that I would one day fight for a world title, now it's up to me to use all my ability to win.

J.S: You say you always knew you'd get a world title fight - did you always think it would come against Cotto?

A.G: I definitely wanted to fight him, yes. I wasn't always sure it would come against him [his title chance] but I always hoped it would be against him. Cotto is a very good and strong fighter, but I believe my style will beat him.

J.S: So if you'd had the choice of picking any of the current belt holders at welterweight, you'd have picked Cotto?

A.G: Definitely, definitely. As I say, styles make fights, and I know that if I am in tip-top shape for this fight, as I will be, I will win. It will also be a great fight for the fans, as well as being an addition to the Puerto Rico Vs. Mexico rivalry.

J.S: Do you think Cotto is the absolute best in the world at 147?

A.G: Well, I think [Floyd] Mayweather has proven himself as not only the best at welterweight, but also one of the best at other weights also - from 126 pounds and up. Cotto may progress to become the best at 147, but right now, Mayweather must be given his due as the very best in the world.

J.S: What do you think Cotto's main strengths are?

A.G: Above all, I'd say his dedication. He is very dedicated both in the gym and in the ring. He never gets tired! Cotto is able to come back when a guy hurts him, because he has great stamina. He obviously trains very hard all the time.

J.S: And his weaknesses?

A.G: Well, I don't want to say too much (laughs). I don't want to give my ideas of how to beat him away! But one weakness he does have is he seems to not be quite as sharp when his opponent is not recognised as being one of the best out there. He kind of slacks off when he feels his opponent isn't that great - like when he fought [Gianluca] Branco, for example, he was not as sharp as when he fought Zab Judah and Shane Mosley. I hope he doesn't do that with me, if he underestimates me I will have a big surprise for him.

J.S: In terms of age and size, you are both very evenly matched. What type of fight do you think it will be - a boxing match or a physical fight?

A.G: We are evenly matched, yes. In fact, in terms of our age, he was born on October 29th, 1980, and I was born exactly one day before. That's quite a coincidence. As far as what type of fight it will be, I never enter a fight with a game-plan. A guy can do completely different things from what you expect, so I prefer to adapt in the ring. I can switch my style, though. I feel I will be able to out-box him if he tries to slug with me. If he attempts to box me, I will get on the inside and counter-punch him. I definitely feel my overall ability is better than his. I'm gonna get him!

J.S: Cotto is a master at coming on strong late in fights, where he punishes a fighter and wears him down. How do you plan on coping with that?

A.G: He does wear people down in fights, yeah. Most of that pressure comes from his good body work, so I guess I'll have to make sure I do a lot of sit-ups (laughs). I'm definitely ready mentally right now, I just have to make sure I'm a hundred percent ready physically come fight time also.

J.S: Of all Cotto's fights, which were his best performances do you think?

A.G: His more recent fights, the Judah fight and the Mosley fight. That is the Cotto I am training for.

J.S: Going back to your last fight, a ten round points win against Ben Tackie. How tough was that fight?

A.G: It was a tough fight, in that he just kept coming forward, whatever I hit him with - which was everything. He brought a lot of pressure, but I think I did a good job of slipping punches and showing my [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] skills to the world as well. It was clear in that fight how I am growing and improving as a fighter.

J.S: You hurt your left hand, too. How is the hand now?

A.G: Yes, I hurt my hand in round 2. That definitely made the fight a lot harder, but I came through it and ignored the pain. I actually broke the index finger. The hand is fine now, though. I has surgery and then therapy on it. There will be no problems with my hand come April 12th.

J.S: The last time I spoke with you, you said your toughest opponent so far in your career was Jesse Feliciano. Is that still the case?

A.G: Yes, he gave me three very tough fights. He's a tough guy - did you see his fight with Kermit Cintron? He almost pulled off the win. You saw the kind of punches he took in that fight, so that [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] you how tough he is. I'm a much improved fighter, especially mentally, now, though. Back when I fought Feliciano, I wasn't anywhere near as strong mentally as I am now. But, yeah, he is probably my toughest opponent. I guess you could kind of call me my nemesis, in that we are tied up at 1-1-1.

J.S: Getting back to Cotto. You are a big underdog in the fight, do you think that's fair?

A.G: I suppose so. He is the champion, after all. And my record doesn't suggest I'm as good a fighter as I actually am. But how many times must I be the underdog until I prove I am a true contender and a true fighter? Ever since The Contender days, and fighting guys like Peter Manfredo, I have had to prove myself. What else can I do? I know I have come on strong to win in the past when I was the underdog, and my attitude is that I will do so again on April 12th.

J.S: Who will you be sparring with?

Gomez: I don't know yet the guys' names, but I will be working with three strong guys. They will be strong, and good at emulating Cotto's style for me.

J.S: When you entered the ring for the Gatti fight, you were smiling as though you didn't have a care in the world. Are you just as calm for this fight?

A.G. Absolutely. I'm just as relaxed and looking forward to the fight. This is my time to shine. After all the hard years, all the struggle, I'm finally getting my big chance. And this fight is back in Atlantic City again, too [scene of the win over Gatti]. If there are boos for me this time, I will smile just like I did the last time (chuckles). I can't wait for this fight, I really can't!
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:46 PM   #17
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I think losing the way he lost killed him,he was the bully,the one who beats you up into submission.........and someone walked through his punches with a smile on their face,bullied him and beat him into submission...Margo made him doubt his manhood

And Margo did so with loaded wraps. Remember, Margo was laughing at Mosley's shots too until they took their toll in the 9th round.

Cotto did not have that option as he was being beaten with bricks for 11 rounds.

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Old 10-01-2012, 09:53 PM   #18
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I really wish we could have seen Cotto's career play out without the plaster beating. His career undoubtedly would have been different. Would that confidence have eventually led to a loss? Given Cotto's penchant for taking tests, I believe so. But at least his career would have played out in its natural course.
I truly believe that Cotto would've been an ATG had his career not been offset by that scum trash.
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The Margo loss probably placed a doubt in Cotto's mind.

Not sure if the win at 154 exorcised it.

IMO, he would've lost stylistically to Pac because of styles.
Cotto doesn't sit on his punches the way he did when he was undefeated. That element of doubt exists in his mind now. Had he met Pac, while undefeated, I can't say what would've happened. But I think Manny would've been in... well I'll just say much more of a fight than what they had.
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:45 PM   #20
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And Margo did so with loaded wraps. Remember, Margo was laughing at Mosley's shots too until they took their toll in the 9th round.

Cotto did not have that option as he was being beaten with bricks for 11 rounds.

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Old 10-02-2012, 02:14 AM   #21
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And Margo did so with loaded wraps. Remember, Margo was laughing at Mosley's shots too until they took their toll in the 9th round.

Cotto did not have that option as he was being beaten with bricks for 11 rounds.

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Cotto cant hurt Margo period..in the 2nd fight he laughed his ass off at Cotto and walked thru his shots...bricks or not Cotto doesnt have the power of Mosley
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:03 AM   #22
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Cotto cant hurt Margo period..in the 2nd fight he laughed his ass off at Cotto and walked thru his shots...bricks or not Cotto doesnt have the power of Mosley

brix slow a guy down more than normal shots, that's something to consider.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:31 AM   #23
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No doubt, Cotto was in his absolute prime in the Margarito fight.

But it is important to remember that the weaknesses that we've come to see in him (you know, the things/styles which break him down) did exist long before Margarito ever got to him. He's never liked hard-hitting, high-volume punchers. That's what made him so popular as he was coming up. He was vulnerable as well as dangerous.
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He looked ridiculously ****y even though it was alfonso gomez, even against guys like that who are even worse he was never that comfortable ever. Even in the beggining rounds against margarito he's never looked as sharp as that. Confidence was sky high and he was in his physical prime, anybody ever think that his carreer could have ended up way better than it was if he never fought margarito or had a better coach from the start? I still think he'd lose to floyd at that time but i'd give him 50/50 against pac if he even accepted to fight him undefeated.


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it was a boxing masterclass and i acually really enjoyed the confidence he showed in his boxing.

Too bad Floyd decided to retire rather than face Cotto, guess Floyd felt that beating Carlos Baldomir was the highlight of his career
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I think losing the way he lost killed him,he was the bully,the one who beats you up into submission.........and someone walked through his punches with a smile on their face,bullied him and beat him into submission...Margo made him doubt his manhood
Shame Margo had to use a palstic strap-on to make him doubt his manhood.
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What Cotto did wrong in the first Margarito fight, was believe he had the power to stop him.

Margarito also busted Cotto's nose in the 2nd Round, making it difficult to breathe thus sapping his energy, making him slow down in the later rounds.

We have no evidence that Marg used loaded wraps in that fight.

And in the Mosley fight Marg was severely dehydrated and weight drained after a very poor camp.

Mosley also bullied Marg physically pushing back, crowding to stop him throwing his punches, Cotto cannot do this.

If Cotto takes the the same game plan in the 2nd for the first fight, he wins that too.

Cotto in the Summer of 2008, beats Mayweather, but still loses to Pacquiao od 2009.
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I think the Zab fight robbed Cotto of the confidence he had at 140. He saw that he could be hurt and outboxed and knew he had to cheat and start low blowing to survive. The Shane fight further scared him because it is a close fight that some argue that Shane won and hurt him going late in the fight and again showed that he had to survive to hold on at the weight.

The Margo fight was the straw that broke the camel's back. Margo beat him into submission and made him quit.

I think what made the Margo loss worse was how easy Shane steam rolled Margo and beat him brutally into submission.
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I think the Zab fight robbed Cotto of the confidence he had at 140. He saw that he could be hurt and outboxed and knew he had to cheat and start low blowing to survive. The Shane fight further scared him because it is a close fight that some argue that Shane won and hurt him going late in the fight and again showed that he had to survive to hold on at the weight.

The Margo fight was the straw that broke the camel's back. Margo beat him into submission and made him quit.

I think what made the Margo loss worse was how easy Shane steam rolled Margo and beat him brutally into submission.
It was at 147, Bama.
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I think the Zab fight robbed Cotto of the confidence he had at 140. He saw that he could be hurt and outboxed and knew he had to cheat and start low blowing to survive. The Shane fight further scared him because it is a close fight that some argue that Shane won and hurt him going late in the fight and again showed that he had to survive to hold on at the weight.

The Margo fight was the straw that broke the camel's back. Margo beat him into submission and made him quit.

I think what made the Margo loss worse was how easy Shane steam rolled Margo and beat him brutally into submission.

Cotto even stated the Mosley fight gave him huge confidence, and it showed the Gomez fight.

Why did you ignore this?
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It was at 147, Bama.
I know it was, what is your point?

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Cotto even stated the Mosley fight gave him huge confidence, and it showed the Gomez fight.

Why did you ignore this?
He stated he was okay after the first Margo fight as well, but he hasn't looked the same since.

Also Gomez was a joke of a fight anyway, Gomez isn't a world class fighter in the slightest.
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