Lewis-McCall I Revisited - was it a fair stoppage? - Page 3

Lance_Uppercut · 10-02-2012, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bremen

He almost fell into the ref trying to take a step forward. Correct stoppage.

Yep. He was still on wobbly legs and stumbling.

JAB5239 · 10-02-2012, 11:01 PM

As champion I think he should have been given a chance to continue, but it wasn't a terribly bad stoppage.

Lance_Uppercut · 10-02-2012, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JAB5239

As champion I think he should have been given a chance to continue, but it wasn't a terribly bad stoppage.

I can understand this sentiment, but my own feelings, the champ and challengers, or any fighter, should be judged the same. Same goes with the "he has to TAKE the belt" logic. Playing field and rules should be the same no matter who you are. Not like champs or highly popular fighters don't get the extra home cooking or benefit of the doubt at times anyway. Of course, I was a big Atomic bull fan back then (well, still am), so I COULD be a tad biased....nah, can't be.

JAB5239 · 10-02-2012, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance_Uppercut

I can understand this sentiment, but my own feelings, the champ and challengers, or any fighter, should be judged the same. Same goes with the "he has to TAKE the belt" logic. Playing field and rules should be the same no matter who you are. Not like champs or highly popular fighters don't get the extra home cooking or benefit of the doubt at times anyway. Of course, I was a big Atomic bull fan back then (well, still am), so I COULD be a tad biased....nah, can't be.

I should have phrased it differently because I agree with your post completely. I think a chance to see if he could have recovered was warranted. He was hurt, but many fighters have been hurt worse and come back. Still not a bad stoppage though.

theboy_racer · 10-02-2012, 11:17 PM

More bad than good.

Lewis head was clear, his legs were a bit gone, bit like Khan but he could have regained them.

The Wanderer · 10-02-2012, 11:19 PM

Lewis might not have been up for much more, but I think he deserved a chance to keep going and have a shot to come back.

gambleer · 10-03-2012, 12:10 AM

BS stoppage.
Boxing fighters are supposed to get hurt. Lewis was wobbly but answered the count, had his gloves up and wanted to continue.

dyna · 10-03-2012, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Beatle

I think Lennox has the most disgraceful chin of all the HW champions.

Patterson comes to my mind.

Tommy Morrison too.

dyna · 10-03-2012, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by iceman71

no doubt.

i love all the "if" and WOULD OF" factors.
IF McCall hit him again IF
He WOULD OF knocked him out anyway
HE WOULD have seriously hurt him

thank god that ref wasnt calling any arturo gatti fights, he wouldnt be known as the warrior he is now because he would have never been given the chance to come back when on the brink of defeat.

What does "would of" mean?
Crazy Brittards and Amerifats who don't get their own grammar right.

KidDynamite · 10-03-2012, 01:07 AM

Lewis was done, clearly disoriented and broken ...

He wasn't coming back from that

He really had a fragile jaw ... never seen any supposed ATG heavyweight champion put down like that from a single punch

and this guy is supposed to be able to survive prime Tyson, possibly the most devastating puncher in history with unparalleled power, accuracy and velocity on his punches?

H . · 10-03-2012, 02:14 AM

yes yes.. excellent fight and stoppage, i'm glad we are discussing it.. this possible example of why Bert Sugar left Lennox out of his top 100 greatest (although he was an honorable mention)

DrBanzai · 10-03-2012, 02:23 AM

TKO2

More proof Lewis is not top 10 ATG

In his defense this is before lewis was gassed up on GH and st-erods.

View Poll Results: Was it a good stoppage?
Yes: Jose Guadalupe Garcia made the right call, Lewis was done	34	66.67%
No: It was a bad stoppage, Lewis could have continued	17	33.33%
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JAB5239 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,336 vCash: 1000	Re: Lewis-McCall I Revisited - was it a fair stoppage? As champion I think he should have been given a chance to continue, but it wasn't a terribly bad stoppage.
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10-02-2012, 11:17 PM	#35
theboy_racer Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,545 vCash: 1000	Re: Lewis-McCall I Revisited - was it a fair stoppage? More bad than good. Lewis head was clear, his legs were a bit gone, bit like Khan but he could have regained them.
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The Wanderer Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New York Posts: 1,861 vCash: 343	Re: Lewis-McCall I Revisited - was it a fair stoppage? Lewis might not have been up for much more, but I think he deserved a chance to keep going and have a shot to come back.
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10-03-2012, 12:10 AM	#37
gambleer Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,097 vCash: 1000	Re: Lewis-McCall I Revisited - was it a fair stoppage? BS stoppage. Boxing fighters are supposed to get hurt. Lewis was wobbly but answered the count, had his gloves up and wanted to continue.
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10-03-2012, 01:07 AM	#40
KidDynamite Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,394 vCash: 500	Re: Lewis-McCall I Revisited - was it a fair stoppage? Lewis was done, clearly disoriented and broken ... He wasn't coming back from that He really had a fragile jaw ... never seen any supposed ATG heavyweight champion put down like that from a single punch and this guy is supposed to be able to survive prime Tyson, possibly the most devastating puncher in history with unparalleled power, accuracy and velocity on his punches?
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10-03-2012, 02:14 AM	#41
H . konews East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,596 vCash: 144	Re: Lewis-McCall I Revisited - was it a fair stoppage? yes yes.. excellent fight and stoppage, i'm glad we are discussing it.. this possible example of why Bert Sugar left Lennox out of his top 100 greatest (although he was an honorable mention)
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10-03-2012, 02:23 AM	#42
DrBanzai Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 906 vCash: 350	Re: Lewis-McCall I Revisited - was it a fair stoppage? TKO2 More proof Lewis is not top 10 ATG In his defense this is before lewis was gassed up on GH and st-erods.
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