Rate these fighters: Tszyu, Arbachakov, Nazarov

[Seamus]

Originally Posted by Lester1583

Yuri Arbachakov and Orzubek Nazarov thread:
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That was it.

Thanks.

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by Vic-JofreBRASIL

Punching power - hard one, Nazarov IMO (perhaps a controversial opinion ?)
Speed - Arbachakov
Footwork - Arbachakov
Defense - Arbachakov
Chin - Arbachakov
Heart - Arbachakov
Resume - Arbachakov
H2H - Arbachakov
Overall P4P - Arbachakov

Well......Arbachakov is the better fighter at least IMO and I really like Tszyu..

Great post

[Lester1583]

Originally Posted by Seamus

People will give Kostya shit for the Hatton fight but he had bleeding on the brain and must have known something was wrong.

There were brief rumors of brain damage etc. but Kostya himself said that he had no brain injuries.

[Lester1583]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Great post

Yuri-fanboy!

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by Lester1583

Yuri-fanboy!

Nah, Nazarov is cooler than Yoko Gushiken. Orzubek appreciation society over here

[lora]

Punching power

Tszyu and Nazarov with Arbachakov slightly behind likely due to his constant problems with his hands.

Speed

Arbachakov then Nazarov.Tszyu was average here.


Footwork

Arbachakov, Nazarov, Tszyu

This was an area Kostya clearly neglected from his more technical Kalule-esque amatuer days

Defense

I'd need to rewatch some of Nazarov's fights here.Arbachakov better than Tszyu, and this was another area neglected by Kostya in favour of his seek and destroy powerpunching approach to the pro's.

Chin

Nazarov, Arbachakov,Tszyu

Not set in stone though as Nazarov might have shown more weakness against better fighters.

Heart

Arbachakov and Nazarov never showed any weakness in-ring here.Kostya not rematching cool vince sits ill with me and he obviously didn't have the same drive later in his career with all the injuries(whereas Arbachakov simply retired)

Resume

Arbachakov, Tszyu, Nazarov

I always liked Thobela, but the bastard was hardly ever in shape.

H2H

Arbachakov, Nazarov, Tszyu


Overall P4P

Arbachakov, Nazarov, Tszyu for me, but i only bother with head to head.Could be six and half a dozen between them depending on your criteria.Kostya had the best longevity.

[lora]

Ah and you forgot King artur, Lester.

[Lester1583]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Nah, Nazarov is cooler than Yoko Gushiken. Orzubek appreciation society over here

Now you're talking!

Orzubek Rules!

[Flea Man]

Dingaan is the Langford of this era (well, he's the no.2 Langford of this time after Guillermo Jones). Ended up fighting f'n Kessler and Bute! Mad fat cunt.

[lora]

btw despite Arbachakov faring better in these sort of "sum of the parts" comparisons, i don't think it would be a given he would beat Nazarov.

ORzubek was a viciously efficient technical puncher.

[Flea Man]

I don't like those sort of discussions. I can agree Yuri wasn't leagues ahead of Nazarov, but his level of opposition means I see his skillset as more proven.

[Lester1583]

Originally Posted by lora

Ah and you forgot King artur, Lester.

I have only seen him against Freitas.

Originally Posted by lora

Speed

Arbachakov then Nazarov.Tszyu was average here.

Actually I think Kostya's handspeed often gets underrated.

He had pretty good handspeed early in his career.

Originally Posted by lora

Overall P4P

Kostya had the best longevity.

Jeff Fenech said Kostya was P4P#1 after Kostya beat LaCoursiere in 1993.

That's 10 years of total dominance.

[Lester1583]

Originally Posted by Lester1583

I have only seen him against Freitas.

Or maybe I've seen some of his early fights?

Arthur hasn't left a lasting impression on me.

[Flea Man]

Don't say that, he's lora's Saensak-esque love story.

[Lester1583]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

I can agree Yuri was leagues ahead of Ricardo Lopez

Arbachakov is Ricardo Lopez with faster hand speed, better movement fighting guys his own size.