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Old 10-04-2012, 01:06 PM   #1
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Just a thought. A mixed bunch,were n't they ?


Lennox Lewis gets knocked out by a moderate fighter,Oliver McCall. McCall then gets taken to the verge of defeat by an ancient Larry Holmes. Michael Moorer gets sparked by an even more ancient George Foreman.

Could you envisage something like that happening in the seventies,for example ? Ancient versions of Foreman and Holmes even being competitive with,let alone winning,against their younger selves or Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier ?
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One of the stronger eras, if not the strongest, in the history of the division. Too many belts, but great excellence and depth from end to end.
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:29 PM   #3
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Just a thought. A mixed bunch,were n't they ?


Lennox Lewis gets knocked out by a moderate fighter,Oliver McCall. McCall then gets taken to the verge of defeat by an ancient Larry Holmes. Michael Moorer gets sparked by an even more ancient George Foreman.

Could you envisage something like that happening in the seventies,for example ? Ancient versions of Foreman and Holmes even being competitive with,let alone winning,against their younger selves or Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier ?
I still think that 40 year old versions of Holmes and Foreman could have done well in the 70's, and an old George might still have beaten peak forms of Norton and Frazier. Old Holmes outboxes the Mercer and McCall comparables of the 70's. And neither Frazier nor Norton fair well in the 90's as it was an era loaded with large men who were big punchers.
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In terms of skill it's second only to the 70's.

In terms of guys facing each other at the top level it's still up there.

One of the best decades in hw history.
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:25 PM   #5
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Could you envisage something like that happening in the seventies,for example ? Ancient versions of Foreman and Holmes even being competitive with,let alone winning,against their younger selves or Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier ?
You match them up against the right fighters, like old Holmes against, say, Quarry or maybe Bugner, for example, and I can absolutely see that happening.
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In terms of skill it's second only to the 70's.

In terms of guys facing each other at the top level it's still up there.

One of the best decades in hw history.
Agreed. puts many other eras to shame in both regards.
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:33 PM   #7
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It was sure fun to be a part of.
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In terms of skill it's second only to the 70's.

In terms of guys facing each other at the top level it's still up there.

One of the best decades in hw history.
I cant see the decade being ranked that highly in skill. Head to head aabilitiy maybe but not skill. Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson and bowe were great fighters but look at some of the other decades. With guys like Morre, Charles, Walcott, Bivins, conn, Tunney, Langford, Gibbons, Walker, etc. Most of those guys are far more skilful than the 90s big 4. Not to mention some of the lesser 90s contenders like Foreman, Ruddock, Mercer, etc. Actually, when you think that George foreman was probably one of the most skilled fighters of the decade, it is extremely hard to believe that this was the second best decade in history.

If course head to head might be a different story.
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I cant see the decade being ranked that highly in skill. Head to head aabilitiy maybe but not skill. Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson and bowe were great fighters but look at some of the other decades. With guys like Morre, Charles, Walcott, Bivins, conn, Tunney, Langford, Gibbons, Walker, etc. Most of those guys are far more skilful than the 90s big 4. Not to mention some of the lesser 90s contenders like Foreman, Ruddock, Mercer, etc. Actually, when you think that George foreman was probably one of the most skilled fighters of the decade, it is extremely hard to believe that this was the second best decade in history.

If course head to head might be a different story.
I see your point but many of the highly skilled fighters you listed from other eras were blown up middles (or just middles) who competed at the weight class. Bowe showed a lot of skill for a guy his size but i see your point about superior h2h vs pure skill set
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:50 PM   #10
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In terms of guys facing each other at the top level it's still up there.
No None of the Top 3 fought each other close to their primes.
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More to a whole era than the top three, bud.


We were mixing it up all over the place. Great fights, well made matches. Only era I wish I would have been a part of more is the 70's. I consider myself so fortunate to have been in boxing around the same time as these guys.
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In terms of skill it's second only to the 70's.

In terms of guys facing each other at the top level it's still up there.

One of the best decades in hw history.
The 70's were only really good from 70-75.

The 90's were good end to end.
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you fought some of the 90's guys?
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More to a whole era than the top three, bud.


We were mixing it up all over the place. Great fights, well made matches. Only era I wish I would have been a part of more is the 70's. I consider myself so fortunate to have been in boxing around the same time as these guys.
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Also in terms of skill it doesn't come close close to the 70's which had almost half of the top 10 heavyweights Ali,Frazier,Foreman,Holmes and arguably 4 out of the top 5
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:56 PM   #15
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you fought some of the 90's guys?
A handful, yeah.

Wouldn't consider myself one of the best of that bunch, but I will say I did alright.
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